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Meaning of "Base" on Baptismal Record
« on: Thursday 23 December 21 21:55 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to find out what the notation of "Base" on a baptismal record from 1801 in All Saint's, Wigan, Lancashire means.  Here is the transcription of the record:

 
Baptism: 31 Jan 1801 All Saints, Wigan, Lancs.
Thomas Farrimond - second Son of Henry Farrimond & Ann (formerly Atherton)
    Born: 1 Jan
    Abode: Pemberton
    Occupation: Weaver
    Mother's Parents: (Base) Daur. of Margt. Atherton
    Register: Baptisms 1799 - 1812, Page 46
    Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

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Re: Meaning of "Base" on Baptismal Record
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 December 21 21:57 GMT (UK) »
Base = illegitimate.
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Re: Meaning of "Base" on Baptismal Record
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 December 21 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Not being able to see the whole record, it is difficult, but I am not sure I see the word 'base".
Yes, change of mind - It could be.

I read it as ...
Ann Farrimond was the illegitimate daughter of Margaret Atherton.

Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
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Re: Meaning of "Base" on Baptismal Record
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 December 21 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Base to me, just with the old form s (Bafe)

Baseborn is a common remark in old parish records, as well as "natural son/dau"- as Neale said, meaning illegitimate. This is backed up by Ann being the daughter of her mother (Margaret) on the record rather than daughter of her father.

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Re: Meaning of "Base" on Baptismal Record
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 December 21 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Would the child be illegitimate or the mother?

The marriage is a bit confusing there are two marriage records for Henry and Ann one in 1798 and one in 1800.


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Re: Meaning of "Base" on Baptismal Record
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 December 21 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Not being able to see the whole record, it is difficult, but I am not sure I see the word 'base".
Yes, change of mind - It could be.

I read it as ...
Ann Farrimond was the illegitimate daughter of Margaret Atherton.

Thanks Neale!  Now I have to find her birth record.  :-D

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Re: Meaning of "Base" on Baptismal Record
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 December 21 22:19 GMT (UK) »
The marriage is a bit confusing there are two marriage records for Henry and Ann one in 1798 and one in 1800.

The marriage was in 1800. The earlier record is the announcement of the banns.
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Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark Faulds Cuthbertson Bryson Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
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Re: Meaning of "Base" on Baptismal Record
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 December 21 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Not being able to see the whole record, it is difficult, but I am not sure I see the word 'base".
Yes, change of mind - It could be.

I read it as ...
Ann Farrimond was the illegitimate daughter of Margaret Atherton.

Thanks Neale!  Now I have to find her birth record.  :-D

Possible baptism Nancy Atherton 11th April 1772 All Saints
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Wigan/Wigan/allsaints/index.html
Same as that found by Neale.
There may have been more than 1 woman named Margaret Atherton who had illegitimate children baptised at All Saints.
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