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Re: Australia emigration & immigration 1880 & 1890s
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 02 January 22 05:21 GMT (UK) »
Re the niece on the 1901 census -

The only registrations I can see for a Mary E ROBEY between Mar 1894 and Dec 1896 are 2 girls, Mary Elizabeth registered in Batsford (Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire) and Mary Elsie, registered Portsmouth, so I disregarded these births.

Looking further it seems likely this is the origin of 'Mary' E ROBEY -

Working backwards:
In 1911 Charlotte Ellen ROBEY, widow, postal address 1 Greenland St, Camden Town has these two with her, described as grandchildren, and both with birth registration St Pancras
Francis Harry OWERS, 18 and Myra Elizabeth OWERS, 16
So is Myra Elizabeth listed as Mary E with the ROBEYs in 1901? Mary E's birthplace is given as Somers Town which is part of St Pancras reg district.

Free BMD has a marriage for Harry OWERS to Elizabeth ROBEY, Jun qr 1893 (Vol1b    p179) registered St Pancras, and Charlotte and William, her first husband, had a daughter Elizabeth Jane.

Birth:
Dec qr 1894, Owers    Myra Elizabeth, registered    Pancras   Vol  1b, p   76

So looks as though the child with Robert and Charlotte in 1901 was the great-niece of Robert and the grandchild of Charlotte.

Interestingly Myra OWERS, 27, clerk, last address 26 Camden St, NW7, is shown on the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, ticketed to Callao, Peru per ship Orita, leaving Liverpool March 23, 1922

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Re: Australia emigration & immigration 1880 & 1890s
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 02 January 22 11:12 GMT (UK) »
Re the niece on the 1901 census -

The only registrations I can see for a Mary E ROBEY between Mar 1894 and Dec 1896 are 2 girls, Mary Elizabeth registered in Batsford (Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire) and Mary Elsie, registered Portsmouth, so I disregarded these births.

Looking further it seems likely this is the origin of 'Mary' E ROBEY -

Working backwards:
In 1911 Charlotte Ellen ROBEY, widow, postal address 1 Greenland St, Camden Town has these two with her, described as grandchildren, and both with birth registration St Pancras
Francis Harry OWERS, 18 and Myra Elizabeth OWERS, 16
So is Myra Elizabeth listed as Mary E with the ROBEYs in 1901? Mary E's birthplace is given as Somers Town which is part of St Pancras reg district.

Free BMD has a marriage for Harry OWERS to Elizabeth ROBEY, Jun qr 1893 (Vol1b    p179) registered St Pancras, and Charlotte and William, her first husband, had a daughter Elizabeth Jane.

Birth:
Dec qr 1894, Owers    Myra Elizabeth, registered    Pancras   Vol  1b, p   76

So looks as though the child with Robert and Charlotte in 1901 was the great-niece of Robert and the grandchild of Charlotte.

Interestingly Myra OWERS, 27, clerk, last address 26 Camden St, NW7, is shown on the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, ticketed to Callao, Peru per ship Orita, leaving Liverpool March 23, 1922

Judith

Hi Judith, thanks so much for your bit of sleuthing here! This absolutely seems to be what is happening here as Myra Owers is not with her mother in the 1901 census. Neither is her brother Francis Harry Owers, but yes totally seems to be Mary is Myra! Thanks very much indeed for putting that mystery to bed!