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Help with Medal Rolls Index Card Thomas Barnes
« on: Monday 27 December 21 03:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I need some help decifering Thomas Barnes Medal card please.
Apparently he was injured during WW1 and lost a leg.

Margaret :)

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Re: Help with Medal Rolls Index Card Thomas Barnes
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 December 21 04:12 GMT (UK) »
Theatre of War section: 2b = Gallipoli and Aegean Islands (he entered on 13 Sept 1915)
He was discharged on 7 December 1917 (as per a WW1 Service Medal and Award Rolls record)

Service #4590: Lancashire Fusiliers (9th Battalion)  Rank: Private
Service #242865: Lancashire Fusiliers (2/6th Battalion)  Rank: Corporal

He was awarded the three WW1 campaign medals The 1914 Star or 1914-15 Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal. (The handwritten notations to the right of each Medal refer to the WW1 Service Medal and Award Rolls and page numbers where Thomas Barnes' medal awards appear).

He also received the Military Medal (awarded for "acts of gallantry and devotion to duty under fire").
A London Gazette issue (dated late July 1917) records that Thomas received the MM.

UK, British Army Recipients of the Military Medal, 1914-1920
Name:   Thomas Barnes
Regimental Number:   242865
Regiment:   Lancashire Fusiliers
Rank:   Corporal
Medals:   Military Medal

NOTE: Gallantry medals are awarded for an especially heroic deed or action. Announcements are listed in the official journal The London Gazette. For some but not all awards, there may also be a separate citation, which describes the action for which the award was made. There are no citations for awards of the Military Medal or Mentions in Despatches.
Operational records or a published regimental/unit history might provide some details, although the individual may not be named. Newspapers may also include an account of the action although for security reasons key details such as locations and unit names are usually removed.


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Re: Help with Medal Rolls Index Card Thomas Barnes
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 December 21 04:32 GMT (UK) »
There is also a WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers record for him on Fold3.
It's dated 7 December 1917 and includes this address: 27 Gibbon Street, Beadford, Manchester.

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Re: Help with Medal Rolls Index Card Thomas Barnes
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 December 21 05:11 GMT (UK) »
Oh Wow!  Thank you so much Hillhurst - this is wonderful.

I'll check out Fold3 plus Newspapers and see what else I can glean.

I don't know how you do it! 8)

Margaret  :)
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Re: Help with Medal Rolls Index Card Thomas Barnes
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 December 21 05:16 GMT (UK) »
Sadly, it doesn't look like his WW1 service record has survived.

Perhaps the Fusiliers Museum may be able to assist with the MM citation. They do charge for a research service, though. https://www.fusiliermuseum.com/explore/research

I have an ancestor who also was awarded the Military Medal (with Bar, too). His Scottish regimental museum provided me with the MM citation (free of charge).  :)

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Re: Help with Medal Rolls Index Card Thomas Barnes
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 December 21 11:11 GMT (UK) »
The 2/6 diary can be downloaded at TNA free of charge.
However he was involved in a raid against the 6th. Bavarian Reserve Div.
on the 13/6/17 when he was awarded his MM.
He underwent a period of special training prior to this in order to prepare for it.
Raids were bloody affairs the object being to kill. collect prisoners, gather intelligence
& get back to their own trench.
They were in the left sub sector of the Givenchy trench system.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
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Re: Help with Medal Rolls Index Card Thomas Barnes
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 December 21 17:03 GMT (UK) »
He Enlisted as Pte 4590 29 August 1914  and was Medically Discharged on 7 December 1917 as Cpl 242865 and issued with his Silver Badge - Number 279597
That Card can be seen on Ancestry
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Re: Help with Medal Rolls Index Card Thomas Barnes
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 December 21 23:55 GMT (UK) »
The 2/6 diary can be downloaded at TNA free of charge.
However he was involved in a raid against the 6th. Bavarian Reserve Div.
on the 13/6/17 when he was awarded his MM.
He underwent a period of special training prior to this in order to prepare for it.
Raids were bloody affairs the object being to kill. collect prisoners, gather intelligence
& get back to their own trench.
They were in the left sub sector of the Givenchy trench system.

Thank you so much for this Jim, I have downloaded the 2/6 diary and have been totally absorbed reading it for most of this morning. It makes one appreciate what they went through - I have great respect for them all.

In appreciation,
Margaret
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Re: Help with Medal Rolls Index Card Thomas Barnes
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 December 21 23:57 GMT (UK) »
He Enlisted as Pte 4590 29 August 1914  and was Medically Discharged on 7 December 1917 as Cpl 242865 and issued with his Silver Badge - Number 279597
That Card can be seen on Ancestry

Thanks for this.  8)

Margaret
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