Mary Cave ....a puzzle

[judb]

Wivenhoe - I think "The Priory' is the one in Stoke-sub-Hamdon, Somerset and is now a National Trust property - quite posh!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoke_sub_Hamdon_Priory

Judith
Still wondering - did she know the Terrell family back in Somerset?

[sparrett]

David THOMAS
Reply #6 has the details on BISA including his arrival.
NB! Date of birth
Sue

[judb]

John Beaton TERRELL is memorialised at St Mary the Virgin church, Stoke-sub-Hamdon, where his parents are buried.  A beautiful church and churchyard.

Judith

[judb]

Sue, the birthdate of 1823 seems much more sensible than 1832.

Judith

[jomcd967]

What details do you have for David Thomas from the marriage certificate? Place of birth, parents, siblings, etc?

Given that the marriage notice was advertised https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/158101888?searchTerm=David%20thomas I really doubt that she would advertise a bigamous wedding?

Jo 

[maddys52]

I notice that the 1849 marriage notice says Mary is the third daughter of Thomas CAVE, this is also printed in the English press  Tuesday,  Feb. 26, 1850 Publication: Sherborne Mercury, although it says "Thomas Care".

(There is also a marriage announcement in England for Anne "third daughter of the late Charles Cave, Esq,. Stoke Parsonage" on 6 Sep 1852 -  Saturday,  Feb. 26, 1853 Publication: Western Times.)

The 1841 census for Charles at Stoke sub Hamdon Lower North St:
Charles CAVE     50    yeoman
Susannah           40
John                    15
Elizabeth              15
Sarah                   14
Ann                      12
Martha                   9
Jane                      7
Lucy                      5
Susan                   3
HO 107/960/7 pg1

I wonder where Mary is?

Seems some confusion about names and place in the family?

Also an advertisement that may be of interest for "Prime Timber to be sold by Auction" at Stoke under Hamden on the Parsonage Farm, Mr Charles CAVE will appoint someone to show the Lots.
Saturday,  Jan. 16, 1847 Publication: Sherborne Mercury

Modified to add:
I notice John TERRELL is a few pages away from the CAVE's on the 1841 census (pg 5)

Modified again:
This might be Mary in 1841 in Martock, with James (60, carpenter) and Rhoda (60) COURT
HO/107/951/2 pg 24

[maddys52]

Quite a lot of differing information on various sites for the passenger list for the Duke of Bronte
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/195938439 13 September 1849.
I see Charles, Susan, Sarah, Ann, Mary, Martha, Jane, Lucy, and John Cave  on the passenger list of the Duke of Bronte but I am not seeing a David Thomas; i could easily have missed him. (There's  David, Thomas, Frederick Waren?, but the way the commas are inserted that would seem to me to be three males with surname Waren? - could easily be a mistake)

I think it probably is a mistake, as in the lists of names of families the last name is preceded by "and" as in "... Lucy, and John Cave". There is no "and", so I think the comma after "David" is probably an error.

[maddys52]

For interest, there is also an advertisement for a steam engine and other equipment for sale, enquire " ... or, Mr. David Thomas, draper, Oswestry."
   Friday,  Oct. 9, 1840 Publication: Chester Chronicle

A few earlier mentions of a David THOMAS, draper of Oswestry eg dissolving a partnership in 1830, and another in 1805 (mercers)

[chrissiecruiser]

Thankyou all for your interest.
Judith, you are on the ball!

Mary was actually Charles 5th daughter but 4th surviving one.
Her sister, Susan died as a young teen. So one paper was sort of correct.

The Priory is a beautiful old building in Stoke sub Hamden. The Cave family leased quite a few holdings and various houses. When they left, the lease was taken over by Charles brother-in-law, Susanna's brother....the Darbys.
All of that family were in South Australia.
The youngest son, William Rendall Cave (my G Grandfather) was an importer/exporter, was Consul to Chile, had grain sheds at Port Adelaide, offices at nearly every railway station in the state ( to bring the grain to the Port).
He had 3 tug boats and was in shares in grain boats. They lived at North Adelaide and had a Summer Residence at Mount Lofty (also called Stirling). The name of the house was called "Pomona", goddess of flowers and fruit.
I have been there and many of the original plantings survive.

When I go on my computer I will follow up your other points.
Bit hard on my phone.

Thankyou again for your delving. Much appreciated.

Chris