Mary Cave ....a puzzle

[sparrett]

I wonder whether he wandered off after his second hospital stint.
Maybe out of favour with his wife and her family having not lived up to the  Esq and merchant tags.

There is this death in Victoria

 
THOMAS David   
Reg 416 /Year 1855
Parents names Unknown
Place of birth *Card.

*maybe Cardiganshire.

My Welsh geography is non existent, but is this a possible for a birth at Ostwestry?

Sue
 
 

[maddys52]

Oswestry is very close to the Welsh border, however Cardiganshire is not very close. 

Great find duinnsleibhe!

The second link though does say he had only been in the Colony for 1 year.  Will check whether the Duke of Bronte made a trip later.

[maddys52]

Seems like the Duke of Bronte only made the one trip to SA (1849). There was another in 1851, but that was to New Zealand.

https://passengers.history.sa.gov.au/vessel-voyages-all/924576

[majm]

Re 1 year.

This would likely be info from the patient, given perhaps when being admitted.   If so,  it is possible a patient with the DTs may have not have retained a sense of time or noticed the change of seasons.  I would not eliminate this person because of that piece of puzzling info on a hospital record.

JM.

[maddys52]

Yes, I agree, good point JM.  Especially as there wasn't another voyage to Oz by the Duke of Bronte.

[chrissiecruiser]

Duinnsleibhe,
You are incredible!

Thankyou so much for your work ferreting that info out.

Also to you other rootschatters. You are so helpful.

I'll follow up the Vic death to find out what I can.

Stay safe,
Chris

[sparrett]

There is this death in Victoria

 
THOMAS David   
Reg 416 /Year 1855
Parents names Unknown
Place of birth *Card.

 
Sue

Whilst I perfectly agree with all the reasons against this being the man, I feel compelled to push it to its final eleimination.

At this  stage-
Vic BMD index online does not allow for a toggle down to get exact date for BMD events, so in order to establish the approximate date for the above listing, I have recorded the names of those listed by registration number immediately before and after his (which is 416) then searched for death notice for those people.  Not all will have a notice of course

Thus-
William Vallance, reg 1855 414 death notice in the newspaper gives death date 6th January.
Sarah Ann Jacob reg 1855 431 death notice in the newspaper gives death date 9 th January


Therefore I think we can conclude the date for the death of this David Thomas 1855 416 was with the first week of January 1855.

The second marriage for Mary CAVE is registered as 20th January 1855

Sue

[majm]

Sue,  I wonder ... would that Vic BDM registration note the cemetery and/or the funeral director?   It seems to me that the CAVE family would likely have been well aware of Mary's husband's deterioration and therefore have perhaps organised his funeral and burial, perhaps fully funding it.   Would the Vic BDM record include the names of the 'official witnesses' ... and or the name/denomination of the clergy ... Clergy would record burials in the local parish register and transmit at least a summary to their Diocese/head quarters.  The church burial register should be extant.   It is also possible that the funeral director records may still be extant, particularly if the F.D firm has continued to trade.  And, of course the cemetery records should also be extant. So perhaps our OP has further opportunities to sort the puzzle.   

JM

[Neale1961]

Could the place name by OWSLEBURY? - Written by someone who didn’t know it and was just putting down what was heard.
It is about 20 miles from Southhampton.
There is also a place called OSSEMSLEY near to Southhampton.