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What do I do with this PRONI reference number?
« on: Sunday 02 January 22 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi all. After doing a PRONI name search I have the following PRONI reference number for a Pre 1858 will for John KNOX:
 T/808 p.8870 & 13214

Can someone tell me if this can be accessed online somehow? I did already try using the eCatalogue but maybe used it incorrectly.
Otherwise, will this require an email to PRONI to have the record looked up as I cannot visit from Australia.
Thanks, Katharine.

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Re: What do I do with this PRONI reference number?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 January 22 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Donít think itís a will, the name appears in the following collection   
Repository :   Public Record Office for Northern Ireland
PRONI Reference :   T808
Title :   Groves Manuscripts
Dates :   c.1650-1900
Description :   Groves Manuscripts comprising genealogical and testamentary papers, notes, abstracts, census substitutes including freeholder lists, Hearthmoney rolls, poll books and other material, c.1650-1900
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Re: What do I do with this PRONI reference number?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 January 22 09:11 GMT (UK) »
Oh I see.
Is it available online though?


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Re: What do I do with this PRONI reference number?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 January 22 09:22 GMT (UK) »
No I just did a name search like you, it does exist but a copy was made and it is located in the Grove estate/manuscript papersÖ perhaps they were the solicitors.

It isnít online, you will need to contact proni with the refence number
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 January 22 09:27 GMT (UK) »
Okay thanks.
I have a feeling it may actually be available through Findmypast.ie but my subscription has lapsed at present.
Thanks for clarifying.  :)

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Re: What do I do with this PRONI reference number?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 January 22 09:29 GMT (UK) »
A bit of information about the Groves collection in PRONI-
http://www.ulstergenealogyandlocalhistoryblog.com/2017/09/tenison-groves-record-agent.html

It is unlikely PRONI would do lookups for this (even pre-covid) and will probably forward you a list of researchers who you could employ to find the information for you.
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Re: What do I do with this PRONI reference number?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 January 22 09:59 GMT (UK) »
Bethams extracts  (Findmypast)
John Knox of Glaslough in Fermanagh clerk
date 1 Dec 1721
son in law Francis Shudall or Thudall
daughter Mary Thudall
yr son John Thudall
daughter Elizabeth = John Knox Gt

date is usually the date the will was proved

Groves manuscripts are not on FindMyPast
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Re: What do I do with this PRONI reference number?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 January 22 10:11 GMT (UK) »
I checked the registry of deeds (familysearch) and there is nothing for John Knox in that timeframe, only a John Knox of Dublin in 1728
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Re: What do I do with this PRONI reference number?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 January 22 10:18 GMT (UK) »
I also checked the newspapers but didn't find anything
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