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Re: Rosanne/Rosannah Fox c.1800
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 06 January 22 09:06 GMT (UK) »
Lancs opc has 5 baptisms to Jonathan and Alice Jones 1800 +/- 5 yrs

1796 Jonathan - abode Prestwich - father Maltster
1798 Ann - same details
(These two records from Bishops Transcripts)

1800 Thomas - same details
1802 Alice - same details

1804 Phoebe abode Eccles -father Inn Keeper

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Re: Rosanne/Rosannah Fox c.1800
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 06 January 22 09:09 GMT (UK) »
I think 1851 for Thomas is Prestwich - there is a tall letter at the end.
Rosehannah’s is difficult, I think.
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Re: Rosanne/Rosannah Fox c.1800
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 06 January 22 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Yes, the more I look at it the more I think it is Prestwich. Good to have confirmation.

Rosehannah definitely says Pendleton on the 1861, though I'm really not sure about the 1851.  :-\


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Re: Rosanne/Rosannah Fox c.1800
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 06 January 22 16:43 GMT (UK) »
I think 1851 for Thomas is Prestwich - there is a tall letter at the end.
Rosehannah’s is difficult, I think.

I have come back in & taken another look & I tend to agree -tall letter at the end Prestwich!
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Re: Rosanne/Rosannah Fox c.1800
« Reply #22 on: Friday 07 January 22 06:42 GMT (UK) »

Lancashire Lancashire Parish Clerk

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Baptism

10 Oct 1824 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
James JONES parents Thomas JONES, weaver, & Rosannah  abode Pendleton
 
5 Aug 1827 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Alice Elizabeth JONES parents Thomas JONES, dyer & Rosannah abode Pendleton
   
11 Apr 1830 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Samuel JONES parents Thomas JONES, dyer & Rosannah abode Pendleton

10 Feb 1833 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Rosanna JONES parents Thomas JONES, dyer & Rosanna abode Pendleton

13 May 1838 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Richard JONES  parents Thomas JONES, dyer & Rosanna abode Pendleton

14 Nov 1841 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Phoebe JONES parents Thomas JONES, dyer & Rosannah abode Pendleton

Marriages
27 Apr 1845 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Alice JONES (X), of full age, Spinster, Pendleton     
Father: Thomas JONES, Dyer

James FURNESS minor, Labourer, Bachelor, Pendleton
Father: Thomas FURNESS, Wheelwright
Witness: George CORTANAY, Anne ATKINSON (X)
   
7 Sep 1851 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Samuel JONES full age, Bleacher, Bachelor, Broad St., Pendleton
Father: Thomas JONES, Dyer

Mary GORST   full age, Spinster, 1 Booth St., Pendleton
Father: Joseph GORST, Cow Keeper     
Witness: Thomas FOX, Eliza FOX (X)

24 May 1858 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Richard JONES minor, Wood Turner, Bachelor, 12 Travis St. Pendleton
Father: Thomas JONES, Dyer

Alice YATES minor, Spinster, 12 Travis St. Pendleton   
Father: Smith YATES, Overlooker
Witness: John JONES, Mary JONES (X)

You might suspect that Thomas FOX, at Pendleton for marriage of Samuel JONES, to be a FOX relative.

Census 1851
FOX Thomas     30y      b. Salford Lancashire
FOX Eliza          29y      b. Pendleton Lancashire
FOX Frances       5y      b. Pendleton Lancashire
FOX John           3y      b. Pendleton Lancashire
FOX Joseph        1y      b. Pendleton Lancashire


I think this Thomas FOX is the 20 year old cotton dyer with the JONES-FOX family, Census 1841 described at reply #3.

How is Thomas FOX related to Rosannah JONES nee FOX?
   

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Re: Rosanne/Rosannah Fox c.1800
« Reply #23 on: Friday 07 January 22 08:08 GMT (UK) »
That sounds good, wivenhoe  :)

Marriage 1843
19th November 1843 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles

Thomas Fox, full age, Dyer, Bachelor, Pendleton
Eliza Ogden, of full age, Spinster, Pendleton
Bride's Father: Joseph Ogden, Joiner
Witnesses:Thomas Gorse; William Fothergill
   Notes:no name or occupation entered for the groom's father
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Re: Rosanne/Rosannah Fox c.1800
« Reply #24 on: Friday 07 January 22 08:18 GMT (UK) »
That sounds good, wivenhoe  :)

Marriage 1843
19th November 1843 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles

Thomas Fox, full age, Dyer, Bachelor, Pendleton
Eliza Ogden, of full age, Spinster, Pendleton
Bride's Father: Joseph Ogden, Joiner
Witnesses:Thomas Gorse; William Fothergill
   Notes:no name or occupation entered for the groom's father

Lancashire Lancashire Parish Clerk

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Baptism

10 Oct 1824 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
James JONES parents Thomas JONES, weaver, & Rosannah  abode Pendleton
 
5 Aug 1827 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Alice Elizabeth JONES parents Thomas JONES, dyer & Rosannah abode Pendleton
   
11 Apr 1830 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Samuel JONES parents Thomas JONES, dyer & Rosannah abode Pendleton

10 Feb 1833 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Rosanna JONES parents Thomas JONES, dyer & Rosanna abode Pendleton

13 May 1838 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Richard JONES  parents Thomas JONES, dyer & Rosanna abode Pendleton

14 Nov 1841 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Phoebe JONES parents Thomas JONES, dyer & Rosannah abode Pendleton

Marriages
27 Apr 1845 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Alice JONES (X), of full age, Spinster, Pendleton     
Father: Thomas JONES, Dyer

James FURNESS minor, Labourer, Bachelor, Pendleton
Father: Thomas FURNESS, Wheelwright
Witness: George CORTANAY, Anne ATKINSON (X)
   
7 Sep 1851 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Samuel JONES full age, Bleacher, Bachelor, Broad St., Pendleton
Father: Thomas JONES, Dyer

Mary GORST   full age, Spinster, 1 Booth St., Pendleton
Father: Joseph GORST, Cow Keeper     
Witness: Thomas FOX, Eliza FOX (X)

24 May 1858 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Richard JONES minor, Wood Turner, Bachelor, 12 Travis St. Pendleton
Father: Thomas JONES, Dyer

Alice YATES minor, Spinster, 12 Travis St. Pendleton   
Father: Smith YATES, Overlooker
Witness: John JONES, Mary JONES (X)

You might suspect that Thomas FOX, at Pendleton for marriage of Samuel JONES, to be a FOX relative.

Census 1851
FOX Thomas     30y      b. Salford Lancashire
FOX Eliza          29y      b. Pendleton Lancashire
FOX Frances       5y      b. Pendleton Lancashire
FOX John           3y      b. Pendleton Lancashire
FOX Joseph        1y      b. Pendleton Lancashire


I think this Thomas FOX is the 20 year old cotton dyer with the JONES-FOX family, Census 1841 described at reply #3.

How is Thomas FOX related to Rosannah JONES nee FOX?
   
Thank you wivenhoe for all this info: It really is of great interest & now furthers my confusion as to whether they are the correct family I am looking for.Our other Rootschat researchers have come up with Thomas Jones (dyer) on previous posts.
 On the info I have as stated initially on my search Rosannah Fox b.1797 married a Thomas Jones Malster of Prestwich Manchester 3 Nov 1823 St Mary's Eccles.

The info I have of Rosannah Fox & Thomas Jones(Malster) is from papers handed to me to work from done previously by a family relative who is now deceased. Problem now is where do I go from here.
It really does all sound good as heywood says.
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Re: Rosanne/Rosannah Fox c.1800
« Reply #25 on: Friday 07 January 22 21:27 GMT (UK) »

Lancashire Lancashire Parish Clerk

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6 May 1860 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Rosannah JONES (X), 27, Spinster, Pendleton
Father: Thomas JONES Dyer

Robert BURGESS 23, Horse Keeper, Bachelor, Pendleton
Father: Daniel BURGESS Coachman

Witness: James FURNESS  Margaret DREW (X)

At reply #22  Alice JONES  marr.  Thomas FURNESS, 1845

   

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Re: Rosanne/Rosannah Fox c.1800
« Reply #26 on: Friday 07 January 22 22:01 GMT (UK) »

Lancashire Lancashire Parish Clerk

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html


6 May 1860 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Rosannah JONES (X), 27, Spinster, Pendleton
Father: Thomas JONES Dyer

Robert BURGESS 23, Horse Keeper, Bachelor, Pendleton
Father: Daniel BURGESS Coachman

Witness: James FURNESS  Margaret DREW (X)

At reply #22  Alice JONES  marr.  Thomas FURNESS, 1845

   
Thank you for this wivenhoe,
I do know that Rosannah Jones married Robert Burgess at St Thomas in Pendleton 6th May 1860
I didn't have the other details though.I had her parents names Thomas Jones & Rosannah Fox,but not the witnesses to marriage which I am grateful for,& also the confirmation that her father was a Dyer.
Robert Burgess her spouse was born 1837 Church Stretton,Staffordshire.
Thank you to all of the work by everyone who have spent time on th research of this family.

Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair