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Offline Guy Etchells

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 07:53 GMT (UK) »
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The records should be free, but our glorious leaders farm them out to private companies (where else are they doing that I wonder?), so those private companies need to recoup their huge costs. I don't begrudge them one bit.

Sorry - I don't understand?
Why should they be free?

I can understand what the poster meant by "The records should be free" but I suggest he/she does not understand the implications of that statement.
I agree we have already paid for the record to be taken and archived, we have even paid for the facility to access them free of charge at the archive that stores the record, however we have not paid the vast sums it takes to digitise, index and host the records on line. That is the point many if not most of the people who complain about the cost miss.
The local archives and even the National Archive does not have the funds, the equipment or the expertise to host such data sets on line. If they were to do so the taxpayer would have to pay a larger contribution and that would risk the argument that the cost of storing the records outweighed the value of those records to the public. If that were the case the result could be the destruction of many archived records to save money (this has indeed happened in the past when local archives have been cut back resulting in records being thrown out).

The system in place is I believe fair, the taxpayer pays for the storage and the facilities of the National Archive (and local archives) and the user pays for the luxury of accessing data sets in the comfort of their home.
This is a win, win situation which spreads the burden between taxpayer and user.

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 10:03 GMT (UK) »

I completely understand the reasons for charges, and personally would be prepared to pay a lot more if it gave me any clue at all to the origins of my ever elusive paternal grandfather!

However, Iím not holding my breath, as he seems a past master at obliterating any clues at all about his antecedentsÖ

Romilly  ::)
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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 10:26 GMT (UK) »
I have been waiting for this census for several years! In search of unknown grandfather. Dad was born Sept 1920 and looked after by his grandparents while my Nan went back to Service. Just hope it was the same place and there may be clues to names from DNA matches but not holding my breath 😊
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Beacock - Bonby, Lincs
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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Like others have said I don't understand why people expect it to be free in the format it is being made available.

When I first started my research the 1891 census was the most upto date one available.
 These were on microfilm, which all had to be searched manually.  If you were lucky a family history society might have produced some sort of index to help you find possible ancestors/relations.

None of the census were available to me from the comfort of my own home, visits to Archives and libraries for my relevant counties of interest were needed.

Anyone who has taken up this hobby post Ancestry, FindMyPast etc does not realise how lucky they are to have vast collections of records available to them, for a fee, in the comfort of their own home.  I'm lucky myself to have access to some of these too as I never managed to make trips to some counties I was interested in.

I have 19 direct ancestors on the 1921 census, probably 9 or 10 individual households.  I'll happily be paying to view them tomorrow.

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Totally agree Jay!  Itís going to be great to see records of family I actually knew!  My Mum is 100 on Sunday and would love to know who her father in law was 😊
Mosedale- Notts/Staffs
Wright- Alkborough & Barnoldby le Beck, Lincs
Thorpe - Elkesley, Notts
Lane - Harby, Notts
Ingledew - N. Yorkshire
Beacock - Bonby, Lincs
Johnson - Halesworth, Suffolk & Essex

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 11:19 GMT (UK) »
I don't think the charges are any great surprise, and in line with previous releases (1911 and 1939).

I'm not planning on doing any great number of searches tomorrow- maybe just a couple, but I will be very surprised if the website doesn't crash or have other problems. Launches like this always do, just from the demand.

Most of my searches will be done at TNA in a couple of weeks when the dust has settled a little.

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 11:36 GMT (UK) »
I don't think the charges are any great surprise, and in line with previous releases (1911 and 1939).

I'm not planning on doing any great number of searches tomorrow- maybe just a couple, but I will be very surprised if the website doesn't crash or have other problems. Launches like this always do, just from the demand.

I know the 1901 crashed and it was several months until it was back online. I can't remember any problems with the 1911 census or 1939 register when FindMyPast released them. Hopefully the fact it is being released by a large company may help.

I don't think quite so many people will rush to see the 1921 census as a lot of older researchers already know about their family from then, or have filled in the gaps by using the 1939 register. I know when the 1911 was released I had a lot I needed to find. For the 1921 I only have a couple I need to see, the others are just out of interest, not to actually confirm anything.
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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 12:05 GMT (UK) »

I completely understand the reasons for charges, and personally would be prepared to pay a lot more if it gave me any clue at all to the origins of my ever elusive paternal grandfather!

However, Iím not holding my breath, as he seems a past master at obliterating any clues at all about his antecedentsÖ

Romilly  ::)

As the date finally nears, I have been thinking of you and hoping that mysterious grandad appears on the 1921. I will be keeping my eyes open for you to post that you've finally found where he came from.

Good luck

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 12:16 GMT (UK) »
I'm super excited for the release of the '21.  I'm not sure what I'll find but it is always great fun trying to interpret further information on the forms just by the way some people filled them out.

One thing I would like to comment on, which no one else seems to highlight, is I think the 'conservation' of the data is paramount. Yes, it is costly to properly index, digitise and store the data, but conservation to me is key.   The fact the census materials have been checked, cleaned and are now being stored appropriately is so important.  Remember these were created in the days of coal fires and all this paper would have needed the soot (not to mention other nasties) removed to keep the document in top condition.

I'll be heading to a hub and hoping the system doesn't  crash!   :D

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