Hi,
Yes, I am not a time traveller, but here's some fairly reliable info that you may not already have.
Grevilles Post Office Directory 1875
KAMERUKA, a settlement in the electorate of EDEN, in the County of AUCKLAND.
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Wren, Henry, a squatter.
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NSW Electoral Roll 1870 EDEN
Henry WREN residing Kamaruka (spelling as per the roll), qualified Freehold situate at Tarragandra
William WREN, residing The Island, qualified leasehold situate at The Island
NONE with surnames WELD or THURSTON or THICKNESSE listed on that Eden roll.
NSW ER 1878 EDEN
Henry WREN, residing Kameruka, freehold situate at Tarrangandra,
Henry Erasmus WREN, residing Kameruka, freehold situate at Kameruka
William W WREN, residing Tarrangandra, freehold Tarrangandra
Arthur Alma WREN, residing Tarrangandra,
NONE with the surnames WELD or THURSTON listed on that Eden Roll.
Sarah Ann marrIed Samuel James Theodore THICKNESSE in 1873, and I note that the 1878 electoral roll for EDEN has the following chap listed:
Samuel THICKNESSE, residing DRY CREEK
Re WELD and WREN and a possible connection to Sarah THURSTON's parents...
William Weld WREN born 1776, Essex England had n 1798 married Mary VASSAL born 1779, Essex England. This info needs checking, as it is part of a submission to the Monaro Pioneers website. I mention that couple as several of their children came to NSW, and as Sarah Ann THURSTON’s mother may have been nee VASSAL or similar. So it is possible the DNA connection is because of a cousin relationship on Sarah's maternal line. Here is a link to Monaro Pioneers.
http://www.monaropioneers.com/ There are (civil) parish maps of the Kameruka district at
https://www.nswlrs.com.au/ it is not the friendliest website but the historic parish maps can often contain clues to help with family history quests. - look for parish and historic maps in their search engine option. You may need 'patience'.
Hi folks! I hope I'm posting this in the right place. Possibly a long post ahead so bear with me -
So I'm in the process of trying to uncover who the biological father of my 3rd great grandfather, John William Thurston, was. Using DNA matches I've been able to whittle it down to 3 candidates (William Weld, Henry Erasmus and Arthur Alma Wren.) My initial thought was that the child's middle name was a clue, however the mother's father was also John William Thurston. My great aunt's DNA relationships with descendants of Will Wren's also indicate that he was probably not the father. Feeling a bit stumped, I recently decided to order a transcription of John's birth certificate and his mother Sarah Thurston's marriage the year after he was born.
I immediately noticed that her marriage took place in the church on the large station which the illegitimate son's paternal grandfather, Henry Wren, managed. I also noticed that a Henry Wren, either his grandfather OR his possible father Henry Erasmus, was a witness to the wedding. Given she was likely not employed at the station (employees typically lived there which she did not,) I figure holding the wedding at the station and having a Wren as a witness is a relatively decent indicator that she was still pretty involved with the family. The possibility of assault was mentioned to me in terms of the circumstances of conception but I find the idea of getting married at the family's station and having the baby's grandfather as a witness very weird if that were the case.
So all that begs a few questions - why did she not marry the father of the child even though she was evidently still involved with the family? If the witness to the wedding was indeed Henry Erasmus Wren (I have requested the original document to compare the signature to the grandfather Henry Wren's) why would the child's father be a wedding witness? Were the Wrens aware the bub's father was a Wren? What happened in the year between the child's birth and her getting married?
Possibly significant possibly not - Sarah named two of her later children by another hubby Henry and Arthur. Her illegitimate son John gave one of his sons the middle name Arthur, although I'm unsure if he was even aware that he was illegitimate.
I'm aware that none of you are time travellers (assumedly) and obviously can't answer it for sure. I just thought I'd throw it out there and see if anybody had any ideas
Cheers!
JM