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Ancestors Camp Bay to Akaroa
« on: Wednesday 05 January 22 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

I have a little question. In 1873 my ancestors were in quarantine at Camp Bay. When quarantine was finished they were moved to Akaroa.
How would my ancestors had travelled? By boat/ship? Horse & cart?

Happy New Year to you,

Ashley

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Re: Anscestors Camp Bay to Akaroa
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 January 22 00:41 GMT (UK) »
Happy New Year to you.

As I believe there were/are more than one CAMP BAY more background info would be required.

But because most of NZ's inland trails of that period, were foot or bridle trails, the most common way, when available, was to travel by water. From shallow draft coastal and harbour routes, to blue water sailing vessels, plying NZ's coastal ports.

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Re: Anscestors Camp Bay to Akaroa
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 January 22 03:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Alan,

The Camp Bay referred to must be the one in Lyttelton Harbour.

Very interesting history, see
http://lytteltonharbourjetties.blogspot.com/2018/05/camp-bay-1-and-absence-of-jetty.html

Ashley, it's quite possible that your ancestors walked over the hill into Akaroa with all their belongings. It was cheaper and safer.

However a search of Papers Past might find a record of them travelling there on a coastal vessel.

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Re: Anscestors Camp Bay to Akaroa
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 January 22 04:31 GMT (UK) »
Hello.

Very interesting link SPADES.

Ashley has not indicated passage destination, before being diverted to a quarantine station, nor the name of the vessel involved. Forward passage might have been involved, but it was well after the first settlers arrived at Akoroa. Overland would have been quite a hike, but they would not have been the first to travel that way.

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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 January 22 04:57 GMT (UK) »
A local history group might be able to confirm whether immigrants took an overland route or not.

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Re: Anscestors Camp Bay to Akaroa
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 January 22 21:13 GMT (UK) »
I myself was thinking about this. My ancestors were danish and were one of many danish families who were at Camp Bay (Lyttelton Harbour) so I am thinking there must have been a decent group of people needing travel.
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Re: Anscestors Camp Bay to Akaroa
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 January 22 22:42 GMT (UK) »
I should state that the vessel was the Punjaub it's destination was Lyttelton and arrived on the 20th September, 1873. Most of the passengers went to Christchurch. There were many danish families that were the last to be moved out of quarantine. But reading from paperspast, from what I understand it was not easy to find accommodation for them. So the reason they ended up in Akaroa.
I know many of the passengers went by train to Christchurch. So could that suggest the NZ immigration office organized to send them by boat?
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 January 22 03:37 GMT (UK) »
Hello Ashley

Why not try Christchurch Libraries OR the Canterbury Museum who have many tales of immigrants.  Use the "ask-a-librarian" facility.

Another place you might find information on how immigrants fared after they were landed, is through published obituaries in say, newspapers of the day, or via the histories of other families who were also aboard the "Punjaub".   There seems to be plenty written about that horrific 1873 voyage.

I remember reading a newspaper report about my 2 x great/grandparents (immigrants to Lyttelton) and their onward journey somewhere South in which my ggg/ma spoke of their travel in a bullock dray with 3 kids and a babe, and how the "short journey mile-wise" had taken more than three weeks !   No additional information was given, so it is supposed they camped in paddocks or where ever, along the way.   Fascinating story it was, until I realised it wasn't my family at all, but one with a similar surname and forenames. 

Good luck, I'm sure you'll get great help and guidance from Canterbury, just as I have in the past.

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Re: Anscestors Camp Bay to Akaroa
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 January 22 09:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello again Ashley.

To follow on from Lu's suggestion re contacting the Christchurch Library. A very valuable resource is the WEEKLY PRESS from the 1860's. It, like it's North Island competitor, the AUCKLAND WEEKLY NEWS, were publications for weekend reading, of the local subscribers, AND also for postal delivery to distant stations and camps, and supply overseas to the "Home Land". A lot of effort went into those editions, with specialist contributing journalists being engaged to supply long reads, plus more detailed accounts, of the news of the day and proceeding weeks.

They are a very valuable resource, that I believe are yet to be digitised, and if you find via PapersPast, a reference to info of interest in the Weekend Press, it is well worth contacting the Christchurch library. I have found them very helpful, when I can supply subject/title/publishing date. So not incurring large search fees.

Also the Akaroa Museum holds copies of the Akaroa Mail from 1876 to the present day, available for viewing. Not sure what look up services are available, and or at what cost.

Alan.

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