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Looking for street locations, and ancestors burials.
« on: Friday 07 January 22 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi all. A couple of questions here.

I am looking for the location of New Butler Street, Manchester (Ancoats?). I can only see Butler Street on current maps. Don't think they are same as it looks longer and the 1911 census only has 24 households.
Also interested in any photos of this street (particularly No.13).
I am also looking for Swallows Place again maybe in Ancoats. These were both locations in the 1921 census.

I am also looking for burials of James Glew d.1928 (Manchester North) and Margaret Glew d.1938 (Manchester North).
I have looked at a few available databases but cannot see them at all. Any suggestions how to find their burials?

Thanks, Katharine.


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Re: Looking for street locations, and ancestors burials.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 07 January 22 09:54 GMT (UK) »
Lancashirebmd has James aged 73 - GLEW   James   73   1928   Manchester   Archives+, Manchester Central Library   MAN/7/107

 Margaret aged 83  GLEW   .....Margaret   83   1938   Manchester North East   Archives+, Manchester Central Library   MNE/5/66

so one is Manchester and one is Manchester North East

are they husband and wife ??
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was Margaret - Margaret Gilligan ? married in Leeds
did they live in Cheetham Hill at one point ?

Baptism: 3 Aug 1879 St Chad, Cheetham, Lancashire, England
Jacobus Glew - filius Jacobi Glew & Margaritae (formerly Gilligan)
    Born: 13 Jun 1879
    Abode: (Byrom St.)
    Godparents: Maria Nolan
    Baptised by: Joanne Burke, M. C.
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Re: Looking for street locations, and ancestors burials.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 January 22 11:40 GMT (UK) »
James Glew was 73 & Margaret Glew 83 on their respective death registrations
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Re: Looking for street locations, and ancestors burials.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 January 22 10:06 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou both for reply.

Garstonite, I did not have the baptism so that is very exciting, thanks. That's my great great grandfather James Charles GLEW. Where did you find it?

Yes James and Margaret, husband and wife married in Leeds (his second marriage, bigamously!) and I was not aware they lived in Cheetham Hill, but they had moved around a little bit. Seems they were at 13 New Butler Street the longest, hence me wanting to find it's location. Their other son was living at Swallows Place.

Those reference numbers for the library...will they give information on burial?

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 January 22 10:12 GMT (UK) »
Their burials donít seem to be recorded in the Manchester Cemetery records
https://secure.manchester.gov.uk/info/200032/deaths_funerals_and_cemeteries/1064/burial_records

As you have Catholic baptisms, they may be buried in the Catholic cemetery, St Josephís, Moston.
Findagrave have some records there https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2208572/st.-joseph's-roman-catholic-churchyard
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 January 22 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Do you have James and Margaret in 1911? I canít see them. :-\

I did find Swallow Place as an address but now canít spot it. However, going back and forth through 1911, I think Davies Street followed it.
You can see, hopefully, Davies Street on this map. It is parallel to Butler Street and crosses Rolleston Street.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01r5y/
I saw it yesterday and then had to go out so I hope I have remembered correctly. ::)

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I see the link doesnít show the zoomed in view sorry.
Rolleston Street is now Rolleston Avenue on modern maps which will help you if you are not familiar with the area.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 January 22 11:11 GMT (UK) »
This is similar. You will have to zoom in. It is fairly easy to spot. The tramway goes along Butler Street from Oldham Road.
New Butler Street is parallel to Butler Street next to Butler Street Mill.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522818
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 January 22 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I had already checked Mancester Burials Website. I have now checked the Catholic graveyard you gave link for with no luck. He was CoE, she was obviously Catholic (from Irish family).
I couldn't see Swallow's place but did find the streets you mentioned. The last map you linked which has New Butler Street is AMAZING!! Thanks. I did find on Manchester libraries one photo of New Butler Street with a corner store. I can now see which corner it might have been on as it has a large building across street that must be the mill.
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 January 22 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Yes I checked that too with no luck.
There may be no headstone for the grave. If you have a date, it might be worth contacting St Josephís although in the past, the responses has been mixed.
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