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James and Mary Kilcoyne
« on: Friday 07 January 22 14:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi
The 1921 census has thrown up a mystery
My husbands father James Brett born 1915 Wrexham is found as a boarder with the above couple at 43 WestEnd st Oldham, the current family have never heard of this couple.

It states on the census that James mother is dead, no mention of father.

On his birth certificate it states mother Ethel Brett formerly Beddowes and father William Brett, as I have never been able to find a marriage between the pair had hoped that the census would have solved this.
I donít know if I can find further information about how long James stayed with them or anything about them
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall

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Re: James and Mary Kilcoyne
« Reply #1 on: Friday 07 January 22 15:49 GMT (UK) »
Can you find his parents in 1911 to trace what happened to them?

If Ethel has died before 1921 there should be a death record for her. 
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Re: James and Mary Kilcoyne
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 January 22 15:50 GMT (UK) »
I have looked for both Ethel Beddowes/ Brett without success

They werenít together before March 1915
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall

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Re: James and Mary Kilcoyne
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:04 GMT (UK) »
There is an Ethel Beddoes in Wales and a William Brett around in Oldham Lancs on previous census.

As James is boarding in Oldham that might be a link.

William Brett is born 1889 bricklayers labourer at 22.  What occupation is given on the birth?
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Re: James and Mary Kilcoyne
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:05 GMT (UK) »
Really which census year as I have never found them together
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall

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Re: James and Mary Kilcoyne
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:11 GMT (UK) »
Not together, I am looking for them separately as single people.
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Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: James and Mary Kilcoyne
« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:15 GMT (UK) »
Ethel was previously married to John William Beddowes
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall

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Re: James and Mary Kilcoyne
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:23 GMT (UK) »
Oh didn't realise that was a married name sorry.  How did you find that out?

So the birth for James should really show her original maiden name not Beddowes  :-\

What was her birth name?
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Re: James and Mary Kilcoyne
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:29 GMT (UK) »
It doesnít say on James birth certificate, how I found it was on William Beddowes 17/10/1913 birth certificate where it states Ethel Beddowes formerly Law possibly Low.
On William Beddowes  8/3/1915 death certificate it says Ethel Beddowes now wife of William Brett. But never found a marriage between William Brett and Ethel
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall