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Henry Symons b1849. Photo taken in Cardiff.
« on: Friday 07 January 22 21:53 GMT (UK) »
I have been told that this is my gg grandfather Henry Symons born 1849 Devon. He moved to Cardiff and worked as a joiner. He owned a house in a reasonably middle class part of Cardiff. Please could anyone advise whether the date of this photo would seem to fit?

Thanks very much
Cardiff- Davies, Thomas,
Forest of Dean/Symonds Yat- Farr
Barnstaple - Symons
Bideford - Labbett
Newcastle Emlyn - Davies
Devonport - Budge, Goodman

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Re: Henry Symons b1849. Photo taken in Cardiff.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 January 22 13:44 GMT (UK) »
When dating men it's particularly important to show the back as well
as men weren't as fashionable as women generally.
However this looks 1890's & maybe into the 1900's.
This man would regard himself as a Gentleman & his
attire reflects that, so if he was joiner he isn't one now
but quite possibly had a joinery business.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Henry Symons b1849. Photo taken in Cardiff.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 January 22 14:12 GMT (UK) »
I though 1890s too Jim but waited for you to see what you thought  ;D
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Re: Henry Symons b1849. Photo taken in Cardiff.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 January 22 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both very much. I will take a pic of the back too, it’s a postcard.
I had been told it was Henry by a family member, this is making me unsure. If this is approx 1890s I am thinking the man is maybe too old.
I have one pic of Henry, a ‘formal’ photo of him dead in his bed. Not much detail so very hard to say if it’s the same man.
His financial status is an odd one, if indeed it is him. In the 1911 census he is listed as Joiner Foreman. In the 1921 which I have just seen he is just Joiner employed, at the age of 71, in a ‘Testing house’ in the Docks, very industrial.
But he did own a nice house in a middle class suburb and I also have a Personalised Christmas card from 1922 from Mr and Mrs H Symons which is quite fancy. His daughter was my great grandmother and I have a newspaper article re her wedding which again sounds reasonably grand. Intriguing.
Cardiff- Davies, Thomas,
Forest of Dean/Symonds Yat- Farr
Barnstaple - Symons
Bideford - Labbett
Newcastle Emlyn - Davies
Devonport - Budge, Goodman

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Re: Henry Symons b1849. Photo taken in Cardiff.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 January 22 14:58 GMT (UK) »
If it's a postcard it's after 1902.
A joiner wouldn't dress like this.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Henry Symons b1849. Photo taken in Cardiff.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 January 22 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. This is the back.
Henry Symon’s status is perplexing. I will find the newspaper article about his daughter’s wedding. To be it would suggest reasonably well off people. It just doesn’t all fit.
Cardiff- Davies, Thomas,
Forest of Dean/Symonds Yat- Farr
Barnstaple - Symons
Bideford - Labbett
Newcastle Emlyn - Davies
Devonport - Budge, Goodman

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Re: Henry Symons b1849. Photo taken in Cardiff.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 January 22 15:46 GMT (UK) »
Here is the account of Henry Symons’ daughter’s wedding in 1898. Now I need to research who would have paid for a wedding at the time. Every little query leads to 100 more in my head.
Thanks very much for the help.
Cardiff- Davies, Thomas,
Forest of Dean/Symonds Yat- Farr
Barnstaple - Symons
Bideford - Labbett
Newcastle Emlyn - Davies
Devonport - Budge, Goodman

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Re: Henry Symons b1849. Photo taken in Cardiff.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 January 22 15:47 GMT (UK) »
This doesn't look like an early postcard so I would say it's after 1907
& the name Dura may refer to Dura. Ltd. of Carmarthen.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/