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1921 Census, Citing Source
« on: Friday 07 January 22 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Just started looking at the 1921 Census. Trying to get my head around what to include in the Source citation, so that I can create a Source template for Rootsmagic 8.

As far as I can see (and in no particular order) possible entries could include [with both a name & No. for the first 3 entries]:

Registration District

Registration Sub-District

Enumeration District

Address

No. of Schedule

Civil Parish or Parishes

Borough or Urban District

Ward or of Borough or Urban District

Rural District

Parliamentary Borough or Urban District

Petty Sessional Division or Borough having a separate Commission of the Peace

County Court District

Ecclesiastical Parish or Parishes


Am I on the right lines? How are you tackling it? I know it's still early days…
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Re: 1921 Census, Citing Source
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 October 22 13:30 GMT (UK) »
Just came to Rootschat to ask the very same question, now I've upgraded my FindMyPast subscription.

For previous censuses (and the 1939 register), FindMyPast (and Ancestry in a slightly less committed fashion) have included a full reference, that's nice and easy to copy and paste into one's preferred family tree software.

E.g.
1901: RG13/2579; Fol. 13; p. 18
1911: RG14PN16407 RG78PN1017 RD359 SD2 ED6 SN245
1939: Ref: RG101/1345C/028/3 Letter Code: CMRC

but on the first 1921 entry that I've looked at, I've got the fields previously mentioned by manukarik, plus
Archive series: RG 15
Piece number: 23338
Schedule number: 165
Schedule type code: E
District reference:    RD 512 RS 3 ED 8

Replacing the %2F characters in FindMyPast's URL with the / that it stands for, I get what's presumably FindMyPast's own reference to this schedule:
GBC/1921/RG15/23338/0331/01

RG15/23338 is self evident, but that 0331 doesn't appear on the transcript, so presumably not part of the TNA reference, so would only work on FindMyPast to drill down to a particular schedule.

I would guess that the a reference RG15/23338/165 would be sufficient to point to a particular schedule. Or would I also need to include the district references too?

How are other rootschatters referring to 1921 census schedules?



Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: 1921 Census, Citing Source
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 October 22 18:48 GMT (UK) »
I would guess that the a reference RG15/23338/165 would be sufficient to point to a particular schedule. Or would I also need to include the district references too?

Strictly, in 1921 (only) you need to cite the ED as well, because some 1921 pieces cover two enumeration districts.

See the TNA guidelines on citations …
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/census-records/#11-the-national-archives-references-for-censuses

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Re: 1921 Census, Citing Source
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 30 October 22 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Excellent. Thanks for the reply. 

That's really useful.
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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