Missing family on ionic ship 1897

[sparrett]

Also
The 1891 EDIT 1901 census listing, which is cited as one of the 4 images attached to this identity, is not the right family in my opinion.
The head John E Smith is a marble polisher

[majm]

Marble polisher !  .... Ha Ha Ha .... my ancient rellies confirm that they have not found Richard Lionel Gordon SMITH anywhere after English 1891 census at familysearch 

ADD,  I do have a Great Grandfather John E SMITH, in NSW in the right era, but I can account for all ten of his NSW born children and his NZ children too, and he was not a marble polisher, nor a bankers clerk. 

JM

[maddys52]

 
The closest I come is my grandfather William SMITH, also in NSW at the same time, but surprisingly no John SMITH's in the family at all.

Sorry for getting a bit off topic Arnside, your SMITH's do seem to be well and truly hidden. But don't despair, happy to keep looking!

[sparrett]

Just to thoroughly eliminate Lewis JOHNSON who died at ORANGE.


In the estate of Lewis JOHNSON   Shipwright etc
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/220010768

The executors were Arthur WARMAN and Thomas YOUNGER
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/18247199/1050133

Both these men were brothers in law to the deceased having married his sisters Lily and Annie whose parents were Edward JOHNSON and Alice TURNER
Lewis JOHNSON was aged 70 at death according to his interment details
Birth
Johnson, Lewis . 1880/8290. Parents Edward JOHNSON Alice  At St Leonards NSW.

Scratch him off your list

Sue
 

[Arnside98]

Marble polisher !  .... Ha Ha Ha .... my ancient rellies confirm that they have not found Richard Lionel Gordon SMITH anywhere after English 1891 census at familysearch 

ADD,  I do have a Great Grandfather John E SMITH, in NSW in the right era, but I can account for all ten of his NSW born children and his NZ children too, and he was not a marble polisher, nor a bankers clerk. 

JM

[Arnside98]

The closest I come is my grandfather William SMITH, also in NSW at the same time, but surprisingly no John SMITH's in the family at all.

Sorry for getting a bit off topic Arnside, your SMITH's do seem to be well and truly hidden. But don't despair, happy to keep looking!

Thanks Maybe I need to try the DNA testing and hope one of their descendants has too!
I’m surprised there’s no paper trail. They wouldn’t have realised what we can uncover these days.

The family tree on ancestry is probably mine. I added the real names and the changed names to the tree to see if the algorithm showed up any hints. I also added any leads on deaths to help with the search. I haven’t updated it since I posted on this forum. Sorry for any confusion.

 

[Arnside98]

I’ve just spotted a Mrs Johnson on the ionic ships manifest. It doesn’t show on the handwritten version on ancestry (unless I’ve missed it) but it does show up on the typed version here. Almost last entry.

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz/genealogy/PassLists/ionicmay1897.html

[majm]

Right, so from that transcribed list:

So she was travelling to Wellington, and in the Saloon class. 

So I wonder
  at which port did she board ? 
  what were her initials
  was  she also using an incognito name

   JM

I’ve just spotted a Mrs Johnson on the ionic ships manifest. It doesn’t show on the handwritten version on ancestry (unless I’ve missed it) but it does show up on the typed version here. Almost last entry.

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz/genealogy/PassLists/ionicmay1897.html

[Arnside98]

Right, so from that transcribed list:

So she was travelling to Wellington, and in the Saloon class. 

So I wonder
  at which port did she board ? 
  what were her initials
  was  she also using an incognito name

   JM

I’ve just spotted a Mrs Johnson on the ionic ships manifest. It doesn’t show on the handwritten version on ancestry (unless I’ve missed it) but it does show up on the typed version here. Almost last entry.

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz/genealogy/PassLists/ionicmay1897.html

Yes indeed. The transcribed manifest says she boarded in London. I’ll take a look at that newspaper article that mentioned the saloon arrivals in Hobart. We would have noticed a Mrs Johnson though. There’s really not much to go on is there?!