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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #144 on: Saturday 15 January 22 07:51 GMT (UK) »

This item states there were passenger disembarked Melbourne per Ionic after its arrival from London in Hobart.
It mentions only Saloon passengers, and this was not the category Ed. JOHNSON traveled in, but it does give credence to his wife's dates in her Gazette notice.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/190658381?searchTerm=ionic


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Interesting cuttings...

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/39650660 Launceston Examiner 28 May 1897
May 27-Ionic, ..... Passengers - Saloon: For Hobart......  For Melbourne : Messrs Charles, Smith, Behrens, 34 third class .... 


 

I mentioned this above, but the thoughts were it was not related to our search.

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #145 on: Saturday 15 January 22 08:13 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Sue,  I most likely contributed to that.  I think I was attempting to debunk any thoughts   that the Ionic sailed from Hobart to Melbourne.   

ADD  Yes, It's my fault.  I should have clicked on the link you posted.  I probably would have taken up umpteen more posts discussing if that was Charles SMITH or CHARLES, SMITH, BERHENS ...  ::)  ::)  ::)  - the ancient rellies will be on the phone to me shortly.   :-[  :-[  :-[


This item states there were passenger disembarked Melbourne per Ionic after its arrival from London in Hobart.
It mentions only Saloon passengers, and this was not the category Ed. JOHNSON traveled in, but it does give credence to his wife's dates in her Gazette notice.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/190658381?searchTerm=ionic


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I may have mis-read,  but I think the Melbourne and Sydney passengers trans-shipped at Hobart and the Ionic went directly to Wellington as the next port.

There would be coastal traders to take up those inter colonial passengers.

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #146 on: Saturday 15 January 22 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi
No need for apologies.. Just general happy overload all round perhaps.   ;D

I do not see Mr  BEHERENS, Mr CHARLES or Mr SMITH on the original ship listing.
Does anyone?
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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #147 on: Saturday 15 January 22 20:49 GMT (UK) »
I discovered a distant relative in America and she just sent me this cutting. Thought you’d all like to see it. Thanks so much for your help.


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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #148 on: Saturday 15 January 22 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Edith died 1923.  Article says her husband and son disappeared 7 years ago.  1923  minus 1897 equals .... err...  a quarter of a century thus suggesting the Ionic Johnson passengers were not her husband and their two sons.

All who joined the AIF were volunteers.  Many were born in Britain.  Very little ID was needed to enlist.  All the AIF service papers have been digitised and are readily available online at the National Archives of Australia, no charge.   

There are many lists of those who served in the 1915 campaign. Most are online.  The puzzle is simply ... what name to look for .... SMITH, JOHNSON, JOHNSTON, MAHON or a name Richard had chosen to enrol under.

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #149 on: Saturday 15 January 22 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Edith died 1923.  Article says her husband and son disappeared 7 years ago.  1923  minus 1897 equals .... err...  a quarter of a century thus suggesting the Ionic Johnson passengers were not her husband and their two sons.

All who joined the AIF were volunteers.  Many were born in Britain.  Very little ID was needed to enlist.  All the AIF service papers have been digitised and are readily available online at the National Archives of Australia, no charge.   

There are many lists of those who served in the 1915 campaign. Most are online.  The puzzle is simply ... what name to look for .... SMITH, JOHNSON, JOHNSTON, MAHON or a name Richard had chosen to enrol under.

JM.

Though if the reporter got it wrong (which happens occasionally :P) and it was meant to read 17 years ago then it would be closer to the time when Edith placed her advertisement.

The  words "persevering search" are interesting because to our knowledge she placed one newspaper advertisement.

Perhaps there was some "behind the scenes" activity

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #150 on: Saturday 15 January 22 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Or 27 years ago.  :)

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« Reply #151 on: Saturday 15 January 22 23:44 GMT (UK) »
A brief online search at naa.gov.au ... I Used keywords:  Richard, Fulham, England and 1913-1919 for date range. Outcome:  no records.  I then revised search, removing Richard.   Yes, there were AIF personnel who enlisted in Australia who gave their POB as Fulham, England.  NoK  names are included in index too.  I have not looked further.

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #152 on: Sunday 16 January 22 00:48 GMT (UK) »
Whoopsie, yes 27! ::)
I am wondering now how the information about the lad's death was ever passed onto her.
She was informed very close to the time of his death (The campaign being Feb 15th 1915 to Jan 1916)


I imagine she would not be NOK.
The boy's father is hiding from her if he is still living.
"Authorities" would have no knowledge of her unless there was something linking her in his WW1 record.
The brother-in-law is deceased.


Any ideas?

Sue
 
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