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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #243 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 00:55 GMT (UK) »
For interest, there are many hits for J E FORREST, to do with his handwriting expertise in the South African records eg:
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300ds?20220125020403D31D5463&PN=00000001

I find the search function not very intuitive, however if you scroll through these results you can find numerous entries, including one that appears to be an action of libel that he took against someone.
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?20220125015953D31D5463&DN=00000050

Modified to add:
I wonder what this one was about?
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?20220125021054D31D5463&DN=00000021

Interesting. 1900 is quite different to today but a petition to the King?! He obviously felt something was really unjust and he wasn’t afraid to fight it. Wonder if we can find out about this.

Can’t imagine petitioning the Queen for something that happens in the commonwealth! 

The initial search looked like a John M Forrest but the link doesn’t work on my phone. I’ll try again later.

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #244 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 01:11 GMT (UK) »
Apologies! Something has gone wrong with those links.

If you go to the South African Archives
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl

and search the "TAB" database with "Forrest", there are 282 hits. Click on the "Result Summary" tab and you can scroll through.

The last item (1901/04) was found in the "VAB" data base:
        " JE FORREST: PETITION TO HIS MAJESTY THE KING COMPLAINING OF           
           TREATMENT RECEIVED FROM ORANGE RIVER COLONY GOVERNMENT FORWARDED     
           WITH REQUEST FOR REPORT: MR. FORREST TO BE INFORMED THAT ENQUIRY IS 
           BEING MADE."   

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #245 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 01:23 GMT (UK) »
Apologies! Something has gone wrong with those links.
Thanks Maddy. I thought it was just idiot me! :D
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #246 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 01:25 GMT (UK) »
From my ancient rellies...

until the Statute of Westminster was adopted by each of the British Empire's dominions, each British Subject was entitled to individually petition their Monarch. 

Aust adopted it in 1942, backdating it to 1939 commencement of War, thus stopping Britain from bringing in a death sentence for two Royal Australian Navy lads.

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #247 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 01:31 GMT (UK) »
As I understand it, you can apply to the Archives for a copy of files, they charge for photocopying. If you wanted to spend some time and $$, probably best to contact them:
http://www.national.archives.gov.za/index.htm

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #248 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 06:34 GMT (UK) »
In 1925 City Directories for Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, USA
There is Owen G Forest and spouse Dorothy Forest living at 308 E Northampton


I have come across a newspaper transcript (Ancestry) of the following marriage
Name: Mr Owen Gordon Forest
Occupation:   Local Representative Vacuum Oil Company
Marriage Date:   16 Nov 1920
Marriage Place:   Scranton, Pennsylvania, USA
Spouse: Dorothy (no surname mentioned), except her mother is "Mrs. Isaama Baldwin"

However, I cannot find a marriage record to go with it. So frustrating! :'(

Was there another marriage before he married Ruth Elizabeth KNELLY in 1927?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #249 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 06:51 GMT (UK) »
He was recorded as a widower in the 1920
And a divorcee in 1927
So a marriage in between does seem possible.

I don’t understand why I cannot find Owen & Robert arriving in the US between 1909 and 1920.
It would be good to see if Ethylyn was with them. ☹️

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