Missing family on ionic ship 1897

[sparrett]

I half noticed this yesterday but I have just double checked. If I have my records correct. Edith landed in New York in January 1889 but her third son was born in April London 1889. Seems like a big trip when heavily pregnant.. or maybe she wasn’t and John had an affair in her absence.

I wonder if you have had a moment to come back to the above.

The boy's birth was April 9th in London.

I think it would be worth clarifying as it strikes me as extremely unusual that a woman would even leave the country without her husband whilst pregnant, let alone take an ocean voyage to appear as a musician in public.

I have tried to see the voyages you mention, but not lucky.

Sue

[Arnside98]

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Divorced 1917


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSRG-Y81?cc=1589502&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AVF7B-MLY



I noticed his address … a 15 min walk from his mothers house at the time. He has documented her as dead on the form. His father too. Both were alive.

Edit: his mother had died. Got confused with divorce date and date of the form. I too will process the info by page 30!

[sparrett]

That is the 1927 marriage referred to earlier

Oh yes so it is.
Perhaps I will have it al perfectly clear in my brain by the time we get to Page 30

Sue

[Neale1961]

He was recorded as a widower in the 1920
And a divorcee in 1927
So a marriage in between does seem possible.

I think the woman Dorothy (Baldwin?) was from Wyoming. It would be handy to have access to USA newspapers.

I don’t understand why I cannot find Owen & Robert arriving in the US between 1909 and 1920.
It would be good to see if Ethylyn was with them. ☹️

His WW1 draft is dated 9 Dec 1918 in Philadelphia. he gives the same address as he was in 1920 census. But apart from that I have not found him or his first wife either. Lots of going around in circles.

I came across this cemetery record, which piqued my interest, but have not been able to find a registered death that matches it.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGYM-B3M4

[Arnside98]

Assume it’s the Owen we are looking at.

[Neale1961]

I half noticed this yesterday but I have just double checked. If I have my records correct. Edith landed in New York in January 1889 but her third son was born in April London 1889. Seems like a big trip when heavily pregnant.. or maybe she wasn’t and John had an affair in her absence.

I wonder if you have had a moment to come back to the above.

The boy's birth was April 9th in London.

I think it would be worth clarifying as it strikes me as extremely unusual that a woman would even leave the country without her husband whilst pregnant, let alone take an ocean voyage to appear as a musician in public.

I have tried to see the voyages you mention, but not lucky.

Sue

I think this is an error in the year, and it should be 1899.

[sparrett]

1899!
That makes a difference.
Sue

[Arnside98]

Assume it’s the Owen we are looking at.

Dorothy B Forrest Married Owen G Forrest  on 9th November 1920. Dorothy was given a divorce (after sept 1st 1925) on the grounds of
cruel treatment.

I didn’t realise the publicly shared details ! Not sure on American Law but women had to prove beyond doubt of any claims I thought.

[Arnside98]

1899!
That makes a difference.
Sue

An Edith Mahon landed in New York on 28th January 1889. This may not have been her. It’s hard to read some of the details but she is of the correct age and I think it says pianist under “calling”.