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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #297 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 05:39 GMT (UK) »
The NZ papers document that the HAUROTO was doing regular runs to Papeete
Arriving in San Francisco by Mariposa ex Tahiti looks like it is probably the truth

Owen’s ranting and raving in that bundle of letters does give the impression of being a bit of a fruitcake (nutty variety). Even his letter to the editor in New Zealand in 1909 gave a similar impression. Maybe some mental instability was the reason that he found it difficult to get work in both NZ and USA.

The son John Lionel Gordon was born 18 March 1928. Within 3 days, by 21st March, Owen had been in to the consulate to have his son registered as a British Subject, and then fought to make sure it was so. I wonder why this was so vitally important for him?
If the mysterious Charles (1930 census) was Owen’s son, then why was he not registered as British too? I think we might assume Charles was not a biological son.

Owen also writes that he has been in the service of the Australian Commonwealth until 1919 and served in the great war. We know that is impossible and a total fabrication. The consulate would have had no difficulty checking that fact, had they wanted.

ADDED: Having gone to all that trouble to prove he was born in Perth Australia, by the 1940 census Owen is back to being born in Texas. ;D

ADDED MORE: As for participating in the Zulu War - wasn’t this event before he was born?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #298 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 06:27 GMT (UK) »

ADDED: Having gone to all that trouble to prove he was born in Perth Australia, by the 1940 census Owen is back to being born in Texas. ;D



While his Mum was visiting Uncle Friendly and Aunty Jenny who lived there. ;D ;D
For a year or so.

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #299 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 06:41 GMT (UK) »
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This article said very light on passengers. Not listed as cabin passengers.
San Fransisco Examiner November 13th 1909

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #300 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 08:01 GMT (UK) »
Owen was an engineer.
Is it possible he was crew on the Mariposa?

He had complained of lack of employment in Oct 1908 (letter to paper)
Had a child in Jan 1909
Boarded a ship supposedly with wife and child, Aug 12th 1909

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #301 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 08:03 GMT (UK) »

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #302 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 08:41 GMT (UK) »
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7949/images/m1412_6-0815?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=1daad9363b55b2e533873ad640cfe720&pId=1704118

Interestingly there is a R O Mahon to Philadelphia. Can’t find anyone with the name Forrest

Have you looked at the two faint entries above R.O. Mahon? I know what I think I see.  ;D.

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #303 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 08:48 GMT (UK) »
Looks like it might be them.  :D

O G ------  something clerk, born US
Ethelyn (maybe, wishful thinking?) ---- England
R O ----  New Zealand



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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #304 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 08:52 GMT (UK) »
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7949/images/m1412_6-0815?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=1daad9363b55b2e533873ad640cfe720&pId=1704118

Interestingly there is a R O Mahon to Philadelphia. Can’t find anyone with the name Forrest

Have you looked at the two faint entries above R.O. Mahon? I know what I think I see.  ;D.

His parents .. who as just going to take a good look through the digitised version. R O Mahon is 9 though.
If so. He was fully aware of his heritage

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Re: Missing family on ionic ship 1897
« Reply #305 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 08:55 GMT (UK) »
As an aside, hoping to find Ethelyn, I have found out who was living at 548 Sedgewick St Mt Airy, Philadelphia in 1920 (where Owen's next of kin Robert was living on the 1918 draft registration).

Unfortunately it looks like not related:
George Gould LAWYER ( 1874) dentist, and his family. He is the home owner, but they were not there in 1910.