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Offline J.R.Ellam

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Re: 1939 register birth years
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 07:32 GMT (UK) »
I have found that they have the wrong year and also the date can b out.
I lso found that they mixed the DOBs, giving the wife the husbands DOB and the giving the husband the wife's DOB.

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Re: 1939 register birth years
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 10:27 GMT (UK) »
In my Experience in Research I have found the Dates of Birth shown on the 1939 Register only about 60 % accurate.
I always advise others to be aware of that.
And to be aware that when  downloading it into their Ancestry Tree for that person it updates that date into the Fact Record with that incorrect date which is usually then contrary to the Date of Birth that they had already had downloaded  for the Baptism.
Dates are not just the year wrong but also the month and day.
Only explanation is Transcription as previously suggested.
Plus not completed by the Householder but rather a visiting Enumerator probably during the day when most of the Residents were out at work or at school or had been Evacuated to the Country.
The remaining Wife at home would have to verbally state the exact Date of Birth for everyone.
Something my Wife and I still find hard to do now, when it comes to Family Birthdays.
How about you ?
Something else I pass on to new Researchers
Never view the past with 21st Century eyes be Flexible
Remember History is not a Record of the Truth or what happened
It's a Record of what people "Said" happened
Which isn't necessarily the Truth.
I have Birth Certificates for 4 Relatives where their Date of Birth born on the Certificate,
 is months after the Priest recorded their Baptism in his Consecutive Baptism Register months before they were officially born.
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Re: 1939 register birth years
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 10:35 GMT (UK) »
My grandpa got his completely wrong.....day, month and year.

No wonder he was surprised to get his Old Age Pension.....he was older than he thought he was.   ::)
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: 1939 register birth years
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 10:46 GMT (UK) »
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Plus not completed by the Householder but rather a visiting Enumerator probably during the day when most of the Residents were out at work or at school or had been Evacuated to the Country.
The remaining Wife at home would have to verbally state the exact Date of Birth for everyone.

That is incorrect, a form was delivered by an Enumerator for completion by the Head of House and collected subsequently, then transcribed into his ledger, just like the 1901 census. Refer to the link with the forms above including instructions to the enumerator. It has Form E the Household Instructions but not the other side the form where the details were to be entered, but does have similar Institution and Welsh forms. I found a copy of the Household as attached from https://www.1911census.org.uk/regform1939a.jpg
The Householder's Instructions say it was the duty of the Head to complete the form.

1. The Head or Acting Head of a private household or the Manager or other person in charge of an Hotel, Club, Boarding House ...is required by law to make a return on this form respecting all persons ...
3. This schedule will be collected by the Enumerator, who will thereupon write and issue to the Head or Manager an identity card for every member of the household or establishment.

I'm sure the enumerator struggled to read some handwriting 6 & 5, 8 & 3, 7 & 1 and errors occurred. Names are generally more a problem than numbers but may have been checked as the card was issued, guess one wouldn't want a card with incorrect surname.

"But the next stage of their duties was quite different from that of a census enumerator. Instead of casting a cursory glance at the form to look for obvious mistakes or omissions, he or she had to verify all the details with the householder, on the spot. Next, the enumerator would write out a National Registration Identity Card for every person, issuing unique numbers as they went."
https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/national-registration-day-29-september-1939/

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Re: 1939 register birth years
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Ooops
Thanks Jon
That's something I've now learnt.
Cheers
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