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Offline Lady Di

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Military Prisons - 1780's
« on: Tuesday 11 January 22 00:19 GMT (UK) »
Would anyone know what UK Military Prisons were in use in or about late 1700's (1775-1799)?

Is it likely that there would be a list of inmates anywhere?

I'm investigating a suggestion that the formation (in England) of the N S W Corp consisted of predominately military prisoners or, at least, recently paroled prisoners.

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Re: Military Prisons - 1780's
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 04:46 GMT (UK) »
The link below, which you may already be familiar with, includes this information:

New South Wales Corps 1790-1810
"Members were recruited in London and Chatham. Some members of the Marines in Australia transferred over to the NSW Corps". https://guides.slv.vic.gov.au/colonialforces/imperialforces

NOTE: Some links within the reference guide may no longer work.

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Re: Military Prisons - 1780's
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 05:03 GMT (UK) »
According to the book "The History of Australian Corrections" (2006) --

"The NSW Corps included both ex-criminals and military prisoners from the Savoy (a military prison in London), and was worse than most of the British or Irish regiments".
It was estimated that ten percent of the NSW Corps were drawn from the Savoy.

The National Archives at Kew hold some Returns of prisoners in the Savoy Prison records, but they are not online. They need to be viewed at Kew. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4399797

You may find some army prisoner records (for Savoy prison) within the Home Office and Prison Commission: prison records (Series PCOM 2) on Find My Past.
It's one of the sub-sets in the England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 collection.

NOTE: The Savoy prison records possibly cover the period of 1837-1843 only.


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Re: Military Prisons - 1780's
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 05:53 GMT (UK) »
Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark Faulds Cuthbertson Bryson Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale Cater Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Military Prisons - 1780's
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 06:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Hillhurst for the information and links

I hadn't heard of the Savoy so that's a new line of enquiry although their records are possibly too late for my needs.

I'll also reinvestigate the army records on FindMyPast as well. Looks like I could be busy!
(Would much prefer a trip to Kew but looks like that's out in the foreseeable future!)

Thanks Neale - I've been looking thru the Vic gov site and found it very helpful. Odd that some of that information isn't on NSW library or Archives (or it is there but harder to find)

Thanks again - appreciate your help

Di

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