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1921 Census: Army in India
« on: Tuesday 11 January 22 10:55 GMT (UK) »
I have been trying to trace my grandfather who was based in India in 1921.
I have a photograph of him and his fellow Sergeants and Warrant Officers of the 5th Royal Irish Lancers in Risalpur, North-West Frontier, India

Percy Willy Freeman
Born 1884 in Dublin, Ireland and died in 1965 in the UK.
Squadron Sergeant Major
5th Royal Irish Lancers

He was accompanied by:
Elizabeth Mary Ellen Freeman, wife and school teacher with the Regiment.
Vivienne Mary Freeman, Daughter.
Alexander Charles Desmond Freeman, son.

I have tried "Findmypast" which has sole access to the 1921 Census of the military abroad but have been unable to locate them.
Risalpur is in the Records under Piece 28120.

Has anyone had any success in tracing a military relative abroad in the 1921 Census?

All help is appreciated.

Freeman: UK, Ireland, Jersey, India
Ward: York
Heseltine: West Heslerton, Malton, Norton
Monkman: West Heslerton & Malton
Wheller: Shrewsbury, Birmingham, Malton & Hull
Colchester: Suffolk
Hall
Bruce: Scotland
Cleary: Co Clare, Ireland & London

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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 11:05 GMT (UK) »
I was playing around the other day and got quite a few pages that had no names or places and just stated army on the results page.  Fortunately the family I was looking for were back home in Croydon
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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 11:21 GMT (UK) »

Percy Willy Freeman
Born 1884 in Dublin, Ireland.....


Hi Tony,

Your grandfather was born at 117 Barrackton in Cork city.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02663/1981575.pdf

KG

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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 12:22 GMT (UK) »

Percy Willy Freeman
Born 1884 in Dublin, Ireland.....


Hi Tony,

Your grandfather was born at 117 Barrackton in Cork city.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02663/1981575.pdf

KG

Thanks for your help.
I had already located this document :-)
it's his whereabouts in India I am concerned with.
I have already researched all his past life, etc .
Freeman: UK, Ireland, Jersey, India
Ward: York
Heseltine: West Heslerton, Malton, Norton
Monkman: West Heslerton & Malton
Wheller: Shrewsbury, Birmingham, Malton & Hull
Colchester: Suffolk
Hall
Bruce: Scotland
Cleary: Co Clare, Ireland & London

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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 12:40 GMT (UK) »
Do you have his army records from MoD? What regiment did he transfer to when 5th Lancers was disbanded in 1921?
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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 12:48 GMT (UK) »
William Freeman
 born 1882 Cork, Ireland
 in the Army

is on the 1921 Census


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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Do you have his army records from MoD? What regiment did he transfer to when 5th Lancers was disbanded in 1921?

Army Records lost in a fire!
He transferred to the Ayrshire Yeomanry as an Instructor in 1922.
Freeman: UK, Ireland, Jersey, India
Ward: York
Heseltine: West Heslerton, Malton, Norton
Monkman: West Heslerton & Malton
Wheller: Shrewsbury, Birmingham, Malton & Hull
Colchester: Suffolk
Hall
Bruce: Scotland
Cleary: Co Clare, Ireland & London

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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 14:19 GMT (UK) »
William Freeman
 born 1882 Cork, Ireland
 in the Army

is on the 1921 Census


Tony

I found him in India, along with other members of his Regiment in A Squadron.
Thanks for your help.

I wonder where his family is recorded?
Prehaps it was only the Army memebers were the ones recorded for some reason?
Freeman: UK, Ireland, Jersey, India
Ward: York
Heseltine: West Heslerton, Malton, Norton
Monkman: West Heslerton & Malton
Wheller: Shrewsbury, Birmingham, Malton & Hull
Colchester: Suffolk
Hall
Bruce: Scotland
Cleary: Co Clare, Ireland & London

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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Do you have his army records from MoD? What regiment did he transfer to when 5th Lancers was disbanded in 1921?

Army Records lost in a fire!
He transferred to the Ayrshire Yeomanry as an Instructor in 1922.

It was a large amount of WW1 records lost in the fire in WW2, you say your man was in the Army in 1921/2 so his records will still be with the MOD.


See here to apply for his records.

https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records

CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester, Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.