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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 14:53 GMT (UK) »
His service record is definitely held by the MoD: it's listed in their FoI disclosure:

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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 17:56 GMT (UK) »
His service record is definitely held by the MoD: it's listed in their FoI disclosure:

Thanks for the information.
I will contact the MOD.
Freeman: UK, Ireland, Jersey, India
Ward: York
Heseltine: West Heslerton, Malton, Norton
Monkman: West Heslerton & Malton
Wheller: Shrewsbury, Birmingham, Malton & Hull
Colchester: Suffolk
Hall
Bruce: Scotland
Cleary: Co Clare, Ireland & London

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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone explain the attached reference to my grandfather on this item from the 1921 Census.

The SSM will refer to him being a Squadron Sergeant Major.

However not sure about the second part?

& FG 2nd Class Warrant Officer?
Freeman: UK, Ireland, Jersey, India
Ward: York
Heseltine: West Heslerton, Malton, Norton
Monkman: West Heslerton & Malton
Wheller: Shrewsbury, Birmingham, Malton & Hull
Colchester: Suffolk
Hall
Bruce: Scotland
Cleary: Co Clare, Ireland & London


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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Not sure about the FG but WO 2nd class is the rank of Sergeant Major. class one would equate to Regimental Sergeant Major.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 11 January 22 19:39 GMT (UK) »
Not sure about the FG but WO 2nd class is the rank of Sergeant Major. class one would equate to Regimental Sergeant Major.

Thanks for the information :-)
Freeman: UK, Ireland, Jersey, India
Ward: York
Heseltine: West Heslerton, Malton, Norton
Monkman: West Heslerton & Malton
Wheller: Shrewsbury, Birmingham, Malton & Hull
Colchester: Suffolk
Hall
Bruce: Scotland
Cleary: Co Clare, Ireland & London

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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 12 January 22 19:25 GMT (UK) »
Do you have his army records from MoD? What regiment did he transfer to when 5th Lancers was disbanded in 1921?

Army Records lost in a fire!
He transferred to the Ayrshire Yeomanry as an Instructor in 1922.

It was a large amount of WW1 records lost in the fire in WW2, you say your man was in the Army in 1921/2 so his records will still be with the MOD.


See here to apply for his records.

https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records

I have sent off an application today, so will have to wait and see. The MOD notes with the application state that it could take up to a year to process the application! !
Freeman: UK, Ireland, Jersey, India
Ward: York
Heseltine: West Heslerton, Malton, Norton
Monkman: West Heslerton & Malton
Wheller: Shrewsbury, Birmingham, Malton & Hull
Colchester: Suffolk
Hall
Bruce: Scotland
Cleary: Co Clare, Ireland & London

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Re: 1921 Census: Army in India
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 12 January 22 21:33 GMT (UK) »
There are several reasons for the long delay, their primary responsibility is to serving personnel, veterans and the spouses of deceased veterans. Covid19  has caused a huge backlog, partly because so many people with time on their hands during lockdown have used it to research their ancestors, thus a large increase in applications.  Added to that, a lot of the staff working from home, all had a knock on effect.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.