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Searching family tree
« on: Thursday 13 January 22 02:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone. Iíve been using the search on this forum and I know there are many many Hearns/Hernes/Hurns/Herons etc but Iíve been using Ancestry and Ancestry DNA and one of my great grandparents is a lady called Dorcas Hearn born 1842 in Chesham.

 Iíve found another family member who has her marriage certificate (1862) to William Clements and her father is listed as Joseph Herne occupation traveller.

The 2 witnesses are Sampson and Cecilia Roberts who I have found on an 1861 census as living on wasteland off Latimer Road called the Gipsie Embankment. There  are a few Hernes living there but no Joseph.

I know this is vague considering some of the amazing information some of you have on your families. I was just hoping this might ring a bell with someone.

Thank you if anyone has anything to help me out here because I canít get any further on that side of my family. Iím stuck at Joseph.

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Re: Searching family tree
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 January 22 16:00 GMT (UK) »
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Dorcas Hearn born 1842 in Chesham.

Does she have a birth certificate with information about her father or was the birth not registered?
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 January 22 17:31 GMT (UK) »
Have you found Dorcas in 1851 and 1861, and does she always claim the same birthplace and birth year?

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 January 22 21:40 GMT (UK) »
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who has her marriage certificate (1862) to William Clements

What was her residence at time of marriage please? 

All information will help us look for her.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 January 22 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Birth info from later census

1871 - Chesham born 1841

1881 - Chesham Bucks born 1842

1891 - Hounslow Middlesex born 1842

1901 - Chesham Bucks born 1843

1911 - Denham Bucks born 1841

There are criminal records for a Dorcas Hearn/Herne age 14 in 1858 Middlesex. 
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 January 22 21:56 GMT (UK) »
The marriage was in Kensington

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 January 22 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Report of the 1858 court case for passing counterfeit coins

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def2-398-18580405&div=t18580405-398#highlight

Added: definitely her. Prison record report pob as Chesham

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 January 22 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Just a suggestionn from someone very much not an expert in traveller or gypsy history but have you considered that the Joseph might be in a different language version of Joseph eg Guiseppe etc

I agree Hearn turns up all sorts of variants Hearn(e) Hern(e) Hurn(e) Hume Heume Herron Herhon Heam Horn(e) and even Keane in my experience which was not in the UK but sefinitely all for the same family.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20 January 22 08:24 GMT (UK) »
The other thing I've found when looking into traveller families is that use of family names is quite fluid. Sometimes they'll be under the father's name and then you find them all using the mother's family name