STEWART family arrival about 1830

[donnabailey77]

I am trying to trace the family of my 3rd great grandmother Emma STEWART. She was born about 1811 in Kensington and married William COLLIE in St Andrews Scots Church on 25 April 1836. The witnesses were a R.STEWART. Fk.STEWART and Lucy MILLAR. William was Scottish. She died in Newtown in 1903 and on her death certificate her father's name is given as Robert STEWART occupation Forwarding Agent. Her birthplace is listed as Kensington, London being in the colony 72 years (app. arrival 1829/30).

I have the death certificate for Frederick STEWART died 5 may 1881 in Newtown. This has his father as Robert STEWART occupation House Agent and mother's name Hannah Sophia HUMPHRYS. Time Birthplace is given as London and time in colony is 50 years (app. arrival 1830/31). The times match up and I believe this is her brother as Frederick is a name that is passed down to a son and grandson and it does not come from the COLLIE line which I have traced back into Scotland. Sophia is also a name that is passed on. Her eldest daughter is Sophia COLLIE and her 2nd eldest son WIlliam Frederick COLLIE named his first daughter Emma Sophia. Again, Sophia is not a name in the COLLIE tree going backwards. Emma herself is sometimes referred to as Emma Sophia COLLIE (although not on any official documents).

Years ago I paid a researcher in London to search the Kensington records for a baptism (going off her death certificate) but with no luck - and no STEWARTs at all.

I cannot find an arrival for Emma STEWART (b.c.1811) or Frederick STEWART (b.c.1817), or a Robert STEWART with family around 1830 in the assisted index. There is a Robert STEWART (a watchmaker) aged 25 arrived in 1832 on the Florentia but he arrives on his own.

In the unassisted index I found a Robert (attorney) and Mrs STEWART arrived in 1833 with children Robert Bruce and Josephine under 12 but this is obviously not my family.

These are the only Robert STEWARTs I have found arriving. I am completely stuck. Can anyone help me out? What should I do next? Where should I look?

Thanks for your time,
Izel

[maddys52]

There is this letter of thanks to the Captain of the Florentia which arrived in Sydney in Aug 1832, One the undersigned is "Robert Stewart and family" - a possibility? (The same voyage has the Robert Stewart you have already found.)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2208035

[majm]

Agree with Maddy.  I will leave my post unedited.

Florentia arrived 10 August 1832.
The document shows that four STEWART names were crossed out in pencil
Robert STEWART, married, steerage
Mrs STEWART, wife, steerage
Daughter aged over 12, steerage
Daughter aged under 12, steerage.

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/assisted-immigrants-digital-shipping-lists   

https://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?series=NRS5312&item=4_4822&ship=Florienta
and
https://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?series=NRS5311&item=4_4824&ship=Florentia
and
https://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?series=NRS5310&item=4_4823&ship=Florentia 

and Robert Stewart and family listed as signatures to letter thanking the captain.  Sydney Gazette 14 August 1832  here :  https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2208035

Biographical Database of Australia has nominal subs for annual memberships and is a not for profit ongoing project   https://www.bda-online.org.au/

JM

[maddys52]

I see on the steerage passenger list for the Florentia arriving in 1832 :
Robert STEWART and wife
2 Daughters (1 over 12 years, 1 under 12 years)

Had typed this , so will leave it - you type quicker than me JM!

[majm]

both hands, possibly,  one finger NOPE! 

[donnabailey77]

Thanks for the help

Unfortunately my eyesight is going so I can't even see them listed    It fits as in the family files I do have a sister for Emma b.c.1811 and that is Hannah Sophia b.c.1820 so that is one under 12 and one over 12. Unfortunately I haven't got any more information on this Hannah except that she married Patrick McKINLEY in 1847 but I haven't looked for that marriage record. I did try looking for a death of Hannah Sophia McKINLEY but could find none. My family file says she died in 1855 in Gundagai but I haven't found any matching record for that.

I have checked the 1841 census and I can't seem to find them... I was hoping to find them and locate their burials but so far all the Robert STEWARTs I have traced haven't been the right one... This family is proving to be quite elusive 

Thanks again,
Izel

[donnabailey77]

Also, I'm not sure what to make of Frederick STEWART b.c.1817 then as he would have been about 15 but no son is listed...

[majm]

MAY BE A SIDE TRACK, but

Birth 30 July 1852, C of E baptism at St Phillip’s Sydney CBD 15 October 1852 by Rev William COWPER:

Walter Douglas, son of William COLLIE, a publican  and his wife Emma of Circular Quay.   


ADD,  sorry forgot to note that this is indexed online at NSW BDM as: 1852, Walter D, parents as William and Emma COLLIER.

JM

[donnabailey77]

Yes this is the brother of my 2nd great grandfather Robert James COLLIE b.1846 in Port Macquarie. I have a ton of info on the COLLIEs - both coming forward and going back to Scotland, but unfortunately no one knows anything about poor Emma's family, the STEWARTs. It is proving a very difficult task to track them down..