Ethel Frances Gluyas and Geraldra Station

[donnabradley1]

Looking for information about Ethel Frances Gluyas (b1892) who worked at Geraldra Station, near Stockinbingal around 1911. She is my great grandmother and would like any information. Thanks Donna

[Paco]

Hi Donna, and welcome to Rootschat!
Do you have access to Ancestry, as there is quite a lot of information about your Great Grandmother on there.
Regards.

[majm]

Welcome from me too.

May I please  ask some questions. I am not related to your Ethel but I am NSW centric, born and bred on the Lachlan. Stockinbingal is of course in regional NSW.

  do you already  have any info about Geraldra Station
  what record leads you to know Ethel worked there in 1911
  what was Ethel's occupation in  1911
  what are the names of Ethel's parents,
  what bdm documents do you currently hold that mention Ethel
  where have you already looked for info about her


JM

[majm]

Hi,

From NSW electoral Roll, 1902 BLAND, Polling place as Stockinbingal
William HENNESSY, a farmer at Geraldra
Charlotte HENNESSY, domestic duties at Geraldra
Isabelle Jane HENNESSY, domestic duties,  at Geraldra.
John SHEATHER, farmer at Geraldra

It was not compulsory to enrol, you needed to be aged 21 and over and a British Subject and have lived at the one location for the six months immediately before enrolling.    So for example, shearers at the Geraldra woodsheds for a month, twice a year would not be enrolled using that as their address.

ADD,  Here is a live link to a newspaper with a good description of Geraldra Station in February 1904.   (80,000 acres,  50,000 sheep).
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/143897976  Coota Herald 13 Feb 1904.

 
JM

[Neale1961]

Please let us know exactly what information you want and what you have.

FROM your ancestry tree (edit):
Ethel Frances Thomazine GLUYAS birth 17 Aug 1892 (Parents John GLUYAS and Jane Bolitho REED)

Daughter Elle Irene Gluyas born 1911 at Geraldra. (Father unknown HALL)

Ethel’s first marriage in 1917 Forbes to Francis Henry ROCHE
       2 children: Neville Matthew 1917 and Clarence Edward 1920

Her second marriage in 1942 to Henry Lawrence JONES

[majm]

Please let us know exactly what information you want and what you have.
.....

I can see a birth for Ethel GLUYAS in March 1882, registered Cobar, but not to those parents, and her middle name would be Jane. 

JM  Edited to better reflect the findings via the NSW BDM online search for births.

[donnabradley1]

My grandmother Belle was born at Geraralda Station in September 1911. Ethel was working there in some capacity and Belle's father was also working there at this time. Ethel was 19 at the time so probably working as a domestic on the property. DNA matches leads to him having the surname Hall. I have Ancestry access and have looked at census lists etc for this time period to try and find information but nothing has been forthcoming. Wondering if someone may have access to records for Geraldra Station and can see employee records for 1910 and 1911. Just trying to get a name for my great grandfather and fill in a big blank.

[jorose]

There are in many cases no surviving records for stations and from initial searches I can't see that anything survives for Geraldra.

I do however note an Alfred Hall of Stockinbingal in 1899 complaining of being wrongfully identified as being fined for bad language. He notes that he has been in the area 16 years, and for 9 of them employed by Mr G. Davidson.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/138279254?searchTerm=%22Alfred%20Hall%22%20Stockinbingal

George Douglas Davidson ran Geralda at this time:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/168083954searchTerm=%22Geralda%20Station%22%20Davidson

An obituary for Alfred Hall Senior notes specifically that he worked on Geraldra Station until he retired in 1912
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/103392254?searchTerm=%22Alfred%20William%20Hall%22

He had one son, Alfred William Hall, who was single when he signed up for WWI in September 1916.
Alfred William was born in 1892 so of an age of Ethel.  Seems like a good possible candidate.

[majm]

Alfred HALL is shown on the Electoral Roll 1902 BLAND, polling Stockingbal, but his residential address is given as Stockinbingal. (Predictative text keeps changing the spelling  : ). So that supports the newspaper info found by jorose.

I also agree about station records, many are extant and others seem to have been lost over time.  It depended on where stored, weather ... floods/fires, and who appreciated keeping old records.... pedigree charts on stock, yes keep that;  crop expenses and harvest returns, yes keep that; who may have had a one night stand ... no, don't write that down; ....

So from the 1911 birth cert .. strictly only that document ... who were the midwives/doctor/witnesses,  what was the recorded occupation for baby's mum,  and for the informant : what name, of what address, and what relationship to baby....

JM.