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Re: US Arriving Passengers & Crew Lists (inc. Castle Garden and Ellis Island) 1820-1
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 13 January 22 19:25 GMT (UK) »

James Craven went as early as 1906 -  New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island) - James Craven 1881 Aberdeen Scotland - aged 25 years -
Last Known Residence Knowle Hill Tuckenhall Derby. Going to the Paul Rainey Cotton Plantation.
Tippah Co, Mississippi
Departure Port Liverpool, England - Arrival Date 13 Dec 1906 New York, New York.
Height 5 Feet, 11 Inches - Hair Colour Brown - Eye Colour Blue Complexion Fair
Identifying Marks Scar Left Urick
Money in Possession $100.00
Ship Name Cevic

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Re: US Arriving Passengers & Crew Lists (inc. Castle Garden and Ellis Island) 1820-1
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 13 January 22 19:27 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if someone who has access to this would look at it and tell me the basic details (dates, residence in particular) - pretty please. 

Name  S. Craven
Residence  Location
Spouse  James Craven

The dates would have been between 1920 and 1927.  I believe her residence would have been either Melbourne or Derby, but certainly in Derbyshire.


SS Caronia
14 Feb 1928

Part/Page 1: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01r6g/
Part/Page 2: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01r6h/

This looks like him, possibly in 1926. Was James's wife Stephanie? Is that what the "S" stands for?

Leaving UK in 1926.

Outgoing Passenger List: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68PY-H3XR

Arriving in NY-

SS Olympic
17 Feb 1926

Line 7-

Part/Page 1: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01r6i/
Part/Page 2: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01r6j/

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Re: US Arriving Passengers & Crew Lists (inc. Castle Garden and Ellis Island) 1820-1
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 13 January 22 19:35 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if someone who has access to this would look at it and tell me the basic details (dates, residence in particular) - pretty please. 

Name  S. Craven
Residence  Location
Spouse  James Craven

The dates would have been between 1920 and 1927.  I believe her residence would have been either Melbourne or Derby, but certainly in Derbyshire.


SS Caronia
14 Feb 1928

Part/Page 1: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01r6g/
Part/Page 2: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01r6h/

At Family Search

Outgoing UK 1928.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68PB-VN2Z

Incoming NY 1928
Images 189/190

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:246K-53H

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Outgoing UK 1929.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68P1-82Q2

Incoming NY 1929

Line 5
Images 145/146

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24XF-49T

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Re: US Arriving Passengers & Crew Lists (inc. Castle Garden and Ellis Island) 1820-1
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 13 January 22 19:48 GMT (UK) »
UK, World War II Allied Prisoners of War, 1939-1945 -  Japanese Index Cards of Allied Prisoners of War and Internees, World War II: Royal Ludian Army Service Corps

The son Lt James Craven - born 19-12-1914
Malatska Hungary.  Mother Stephanie.

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Re: US Arriving Passengers & Crew Lists (inc. Castle Garden and Ellis Island) 1820-1
« Reply #22 on: Friday 14 January 22 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear.  Firstly, thank you to you all for your great efforts and the information provided. 

The reason I just gave the one record and asked only for the basic details on it is that I do have all the information on James - including the fact that he probably WAS murdered in NJ in 1929 - and on Stefanie from the date of James' death.  I also know about his son, also James, being a POW and his eventual emigration to Australia and marriage there (discovered by various wonderful Chatters).  I had not known that Stefanie visited James in the US before now, which was why I wanted the date.  I knew he had come home on several occasions following his original (post-WWI) journey out there.  The newspaper article about Mrs Beaumont going to collect his body was slightly wrong...she was his sister Isobel (Euphemia) - would you believe born almost exactly 9 months before James.

There is information missing about James.  He married Stefanie in Hungary in 1910-11.  When war broke out, apparently Stefanie refused to leave her home and parents and James was reportedly interned for the duration of the Great War.  It is unknown when they came to England but he left for USA for the first time (discounting the 1907 trip) in 1926. I am not worried about trying to find out this information at the moment, as great efforts have been made by various people to no avail.

So, RJ137, thanks for the info. on the date and the Ship she sailed on.  I'll be able to check if her children went with her or if she left them with one of James' sibs (I don't think it was with my granddad).

I have, by the way, prior to my request, gone through the Ellis Island records several times to no avail.  Now i have this one date, I'll try again!

Thank you all, once again.

lydiaann
Cravens of Wakefield, Alnwick, Banchory-Ternan
Houghtons and Harrises of Melbourne, Derbyshire
Taylors of Chadderton/Oldham, Lancashire
MacGillivrays of Mull
Macdonalds of Dundee

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Re: US Arriving Passengers & Crew Lists (inc. Castle Garden and Ellis Island) 1820-1
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 15 January 22 09:55 GMT (UK) »

Previous 2009 related post :- with mention of the same passenger list information  given here.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=386765.msg2585984

Sorry I did not see Stefanie Craven on any passenger list travelling to the USA, Mrs S Craven or Mrs J Craven with a Derby address is listed on those passenger lists as being the nearest relative in the country from whence James Craven came.  (or person in the old country on the transcriptions)

Have another look at them.

departing 4 th Feb and arriving 14 th Feb as per the description in reply 7 -

departing 16 Feb 1929 arriving 27 February 1929 as per description in reply 7

So far it doesn't look like Stefanie or the children was ever in the USA

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Re: US Arriving Passengers & Crew Lists (inc. Castle Garden and Ellis Island) 1820-1
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 16 January 22 14:12 GMT (UK) »
Sandra has very kindly sorted out this for me - thank you so much, Sandra.  And thanks again to all those who helpfully found all sorts of tit bits of information,  as always, so giving of your time. :-* :-*

So, I am happy to say that this is COMPLETED!!
Cravens of Wakefield, Alnwick, Banchory-Ternan
Houghtons and Harrises of Melbourne, Derbyshire
Taylors of Chadderton/Oldham, Lancashire
MacGillivrays of Mull
Macdonalds of Dundee