Author Topic: After any help with the military service of John Rainer 1880s  (Read 152 times)

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Re: After any help with the military service of John Rainer 1880s
« Reply #9 on: Friday 14 January 22 15:49 GMT (UK) »
Possibly found him in the Northamptonshire Reformatory school in 1871 census
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Re: After any help with the military service of John Rainer 1880s
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14 January 22 16:01 GMT (UK) »
In that case, would this be him?

Leicester Guardian
Wednesday 16 December 1868 (page eight)
"Committed for trial. James Young and John Raynor, two youths were charged with stealing a pair of leggings from 0. A. Harrold's, Gallowtree-gate, and two pair of leggings ..."

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Re: After any help with the military service of John Rainer 1880s
« Reply #11 on: Friday 14 January 22 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Oooo fabulous, I would think so! His parents worked in the hosiery industry
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Re: After any help with the military service of John Rainer 1880s
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 January 22 16:16 GMT (UK) »
Wonder if the parents put him up to it? What were their names?

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Re: After any help with the military service of John Rainer 1880s
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 January 22 16:26 GMT (UK) »
John Rainer and Elizabeth Ann but she was known as Ann, I think there’s an article on John Sr assaulting Ann in 1861, they lived on Knighton Street then.
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Re: After any help with the military service of John Rainer 1880s
« Reply #14 on: Friday 14 January 22 16:30 GMT (UK) »
I saw that assault report, as well. Did wonder if it was his parents. Charming family.

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Re: After any help with the military service of John Rainer 1880s
« Reply #15 on: Friday 14 January 22 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Yes the more I look the dodgier they get, my friends loving it though!
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Re: After any help with the military service of John Rainer 1880s
« Reply #16 on: Friday 14 January 22 16:50 GMT (UK) »
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Shaun - can I just ask why there isn't a British Army, Worldwide Index for 1881? Is it just not available, or not available online?

The Worldwide Army Indexes are not official documents per se; they have been compiled by military historian Roger Nixon from contemporary regimental paylists (etc) held by the National Archives. I don't know whether he is still active and working on 1881. I hope so but it will have been difficult over the last couple of years.
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Re: After any help with the military service of John Rainer 1880s
« Reply #17 on: Friday 14 January 22 16:56 GMT (UK) »
Probably a red herring, but did JR remain in Northamptonshire after reform school? The age is a good fit.

Northampton Mercury
Saturday 20 October 1877 (page eight)
"John Rayner (22), paper maker, pleaded Guilty to maliciously wounding Henry May, thereby inflicting upon him great bodily harm, at the parish of St. Giles, on the 18th July".

The 21 July 1877 edition of the newspaper reports: "John Rayner, paper maker, 7, Russell-terrace, was charged with assaulting Henry May, stabbing him in the back of the head with a knife, while in field, on the Houghton-road, on the 18th instant.  :o

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name:   John Raynor
Date of Trial:  19 Oct 1877
Trial Year:    1877
Location of Trial:  Northamptonshire, England
Sentence:   Imprisonment