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Seymour T P Hales
« on: Saturday 15 January 22 08:59 GMT (UK) »
All my DNA research suggests that Seymour T P Hales was my biological father. He was born in Lambeth on 26 May 1923 and died in Blackpool in October 1981.
He married a few times and appeared to have numerous affairs, me being the result of one of them.
At some point in the 1950's he served in the Army in Singapore.
My research has been with Ancestry and my tree is public.
I am really finding this man rather elusive and would appreciate thoughts on how I can find further information about him. Anything would be useful.
Thank you so much

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Re: Seymour T P Hales
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 January 22 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked out this site
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&q.anyPlace=England&q.givenName=Seymour%20T%20P%20&q.surname=%20Hales

See at least 3 wives listed there, as well as his death. Maybe some siblings to.

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Re: Seymour T P Hales
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 January 22 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked at the 1939 entry

Death reg shows him as Seymour Thacker P Hales b 26.5.1923

1939 entry same birthdate indexed as Seymour V T Hales

A tree on Ancestry has him as Seymour (Michael) Thacker Peace Hales & his parents as Joseph Ernest Thacker & Ada Mary Geere

Births June qtr 1923   
Seymour T Peace  mothers maiden name Geere    Lambeth    1d   630

GRO online shows middle name as Thasker but probably a misprint
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Re: Seymour T P Hales
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 January 22 14:37 GMT (UK) »
Re link posted by Schoch above

www.freebmd.org.uk

The Notts marriage appears to have had 3 children b 1945-1953 & possibly 2 to the 1962 marriage

Children's birth details cannot be given here as RC has a strict no living persons policy but you will find them using freebmd
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Re: Seymour T P Hales
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 January 22 14:57 GMT (UK) »
Deaths - Pearl Hales aged 60 b 9.3.1924 Dec qtr 1984  Wakefield  5  1504

Births June qtr 1924   
Pearl   Mort mmn  Crouch    Wakefield    9c   43

Marriage - 2 children born to the marriage - see freebmd

Marriages June qtr 1943   
Pearl   Mort/Ronald S Young    Wakefield    9c   47
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Re: Seymour T P Hales
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 January 22 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Marriages

Ada M Geere/Willie Peace Sept qtr 1918  St. George Hanover Square 1a 1150

Births Sep 1883   
GEERE    Ada Mary         Cuckfield    2b   160

Deaths
Willie Peace aged 54 June qtr 1920   St George Hanover Square  1a  502

Births Sep 1865 
PEACE    Willie    Huddersfield    9a   285   - mmn Bramall 
PEACE    Willie     Huddersfield    9a   284 - no mmn


Possible death

Deaths Mar 1953   
Ada M Peace 69    Chelsea    5c   483
 
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Re: Seymour T P Hales
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 01:31 »
So, if I'm reading all this correctly, Seymour wasn't born a Hales i.e. not the son of Joseph Hales and wife Elizabeth who he is with in 1939 - one can only assume that for whatever reason he was adopted by them.

I'm assuming that since his birth parents are shown as Joseph Ernest Thacker (married to someone else) and Ada Mary Peace, nee Geere, widow) that his birth certificate has been purchased at some point.

That being so, then his bloodlines are Thacker and Geere (no Hales blood at all).

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Re: Seymour T P Hales
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 11:49 »
I cannot find an obvious Thacker/Geere or Peace connection to the Hales - or a Lincolnshire/Derbyshire connection

Joseph Hales was b 1891 in Minting Lincolnshire as were his parents but family seem to have moved to Derbyshire between 1893-1895.  His mother Jane was nee Hewson



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Re: Seymour T P Hales
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 12:33 »
Seymour's mother was Ada Mary Geere, who had been married to Willie Peace, who died in 1920. Ada had affair with Thacker and Seymour was the result. Ada sent Seymour away to live with Hales family in Derbyshire.