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Offline Peggy13

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Re: Margaret Watterson, born Oct 13, 1872, Ireland, likely went to Philadelphia
« Reply #9 on: Friday 21 January 22 18:40 GMT (UK) »
I have found the family in 1910, which says both parents born England. I have been told that sometimes the Irish would say they were from Scotland or England, because of some prejudice against the Irish.
We have a daughter Malinda and Margaret so  possible one of them married Leroy Ackerman and one married Alvin Schantz (as per obit) although there is another daughter Ethel born abt 1915 who could have married one of these gentlemen.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRVV-9QH?cc=1727033&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMG33-CQ7
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Re: Margaret Watterson, born Oct 13, 1872, Ireland, likely went to Philadelphia
« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 January 22 18:47 GMT (UK) »
Now I have found the family in 1930, with Margaret and Robert, and their two youngest children. Then, they were in Quakerstown Borough, Bucks Co., PA
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRZC-Q21?cc=1810731&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AXH88-CYL
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Re: Margaret Watterson, born Oct 13, 1872, Ireland, likely went to Philadelphia
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 January 22 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Found the births of William Ervin/Irvin Phoenix, Apr 2, 1905 in Haycock and Warren Garfield Phoenix Apr 18, 1907 also in Haycock Twp., Bucks Co.  Can't seem to produce the link.
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Re: Margaret Watterson, born Oct 13, 1872, Ireland, likely went to Philadelphia
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 January 22 19:08 GMT (UK) »
I finally found Robert and Margaret in 1900 living in Philadelphia and both of them say they were from Ireland. I found them using Malinda's dob although she went by Lillie on this census, born Oct 1897. Margaret says dob June 1876 which is closer to actual birth. Indexed under Phonex.
It is the same family as the 1910 census has these two daughters on it along with their sons Robert, William and Warren.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-68LW-QH3?cc=1325221&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AM37L-KX1
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Re: Margaret Watterson, born Oct 13, 1872, Ireland, likely went to Philadelphia
« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 January 22 23:29 GMT (UK) »
I tried to figure out why Margaret would take so many years off her age. My first guess was that Robert was a lot younger than her, but not so. Second guess was that there were two Margarets in the family and the first one (b 1872) died, and another was born in 1881. Not so either.
Along the way I found these records for Robert, which fill in the gaps on him:

WWI Draft
Robert Phoenix, b April 11, 1873, naturalized citizen, watchman at Bethlehem Steel, Bethlehem PA. nearest relative: Margaret Phoenix
both at 4 RD Quakertown, Bucks Co
(that should probably be findable at familysearch.org)

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PA birth certificate
Warren Roosevelt Phenix
April 18, 1907 in Haycock Township, Bucks Co
father: Robert Phenix, 36, farmer, of Applebachsville, Pa, born in Antrim Co, Belfast, Ireland
mother: Margaret Waterson, 34, of Applebachsville, born in Belfast, Ireland.
her fifth child, all now living.

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PA Death Certificate
Robert Phoenix
April 17, 1947, in Chester County Hospital, West Chester, Chester Co, PA
his usual residence: Boothwyn, Chester Co, PA
birth: April 11, 1875, Ireland
parents: Matthew Phoenix and Elizabeth __, both born in Ireland
wife, alive: Margaret Phoenix
informant: Margaret Phoenix, of Quakertown PA
buried April 19, 1947, Applebachsville, Bucks Co, PA [but I couldn't have read the town without having his findagrave information.]

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findagrave - same headstone as Margaret, a daughter Edna and son James
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/17063629/robert-phoenix

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Civil Registration, Ireland, Registrar's District Annahilt, Lisburn, Co Down
April 11, 1872 in Cargygray
Robert, son of Matthew Phoenix, a weaver of Cargygray, and Isabella Phoenix, formerly Irvine. informant: the father.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03252/2191963.pdf

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So Robert was actually 6 months older than Margaret.

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Re: Margaret Watterson, born Oct 13, 1872, Ireland, likely went to Philadelphia
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 22 January 22 03:10 GMT (UK) »
Oldohiohome, you are amazing. I can't believe that you found all this wonderful information. Both Margaret and her sister Helena aka Sarah Elena both misrepresented their ages, for whatever reason. But I am sure these are the right people, largely because of the names of the parents.
Thank you so very much.
Peggy
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Re: Margaret Watterson, born Oct 13, 1872, Ireland, likely went to Philadelphia
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 22 January 22 03:19 GMT (UK) »
Looking at Margaret’s age when Warren was born brings her date of birth to 1873 which is fairly close to her actual date of birth. And it states she was born in Ireland which is true. Great, thank you, oldoohiohome.
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