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Help reading last line of this record please
« on: Wednesday 26 January 22 08:13 GMT (UK) »
This is a note on the service record of an Australian soldier in WW1.  He has no known grave yet
this record states that the particulars of his burial were sent to Hampshire T who was his
brother-in-law.  He did not receive the details nor the photo referred to.  Would appreciate a
transcription of the last line of this record please.   I think the last few words may be 'written re
location of grave'    He was killed in action at Dernancourt, France of 5th April 1918.  T. Hampshire
was also on the Western front so it is not surprising that the details were lost.  Usually they are sent to the next of kin.

Thanks,
Jen.
Boland   NSW, Australia
Gibbs   S.Aust. & Queensland
Jennings NSW, Australia
Page  Coventry UK, Queensland Aust.
Sellars (Sellard) Gloucestershire
Kirby  Lechlade, Gloucestershire
Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
Goddard,  Isle of Wight
Cushen, Isle of Wight
Keys,  Tyrone Ireland & NSW Australia

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Re: Help reading last line of this record please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 08:19 GMT (UK) »
the last words of the last line look like

written are location of grave

so I presume what comes before that is some sort of grave reference?

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Re: Help reading last line of this record please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 08:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Conahy, that confirms what I thought.  It is the beginning of that line that I can't read.
Boland   NSW, Australia
Gibbs   S.Aust. & Queensland
Jennings NSW, Australia
Page  Coventry UK, Queensland Aust.
Sellars (Sellard) Gloucestershire
Kirby  Lechlade, Gloucestershire
Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
Goddard,  Isle of Wight
Cushen, Isle of Wight
Keys,  Tyrone Ireland & NSW Australia

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Re: Help reading last line of this record please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 08:27 GMT (UK) »
DGRV6 possibly


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Re: Help reading last line of this record please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou :)  Possibly initials of the person making this notation?  The handwriting of this last line
                    appears different to the lines above.  Pity it doesn't state the name of the person he has
                    written to.  It was not the next of kin, his wife.
Boland   NSW, Australia
Gibbs   S.Aust. & Queensland
Jennings NSW, Australia
Page  Coventry UK, Queensland Aust.
Sellars (Sellard) Gloucestershire
Kirby  Lechlade, Gloucestershire
Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
Goddard,  Isle of Wight
Cushen, Isle of Wight
Keys,  Tyrone Ireland & NSW Australia

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Re: Help reading last line of this record please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 January 22 03:32 GMT (UK) »
That is extremely interesting Orkrad, thankyou!.  There are references in the 52nd. Bn. war diaries
to suggest that some burials were adjacent to the road quite near the cemetery.  I have read that
some soldiers were then re-interred in the cemetery as your cited article suggests.  It is a most
likely scenario that the lost records referred to a burial in this cemetery. Pte.W. Keys was on a Lewis
gun on a rise near the Dernancourt railway bridge when he was killed in action at 5 a.m. on 5th April,1918.  A grandson laid a family wreath at this cemetery on the 100th anniversary of his death.
Lest We Forget.

Regards,
Jen.
Boland   NSW, Australia
Gibbs   S.Aust. & Queensland
Jennings NSW, Australia
Page  Coventry UK, Queensland Aust.
Sellars (Sellard) Gloucestershire
Kirby  Lechlade, Gloucestershire
Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
Goddard,  Isle of Wight
Cushen, Isle of Wight
Keys,  Tyrone Ireland & NSW Australia

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Re: Help reading last line of this record please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 January 22 05:58 GMT (UK) »
So sorry but it appears to me that this is the request for details to be sent to the address rather than confirmation that they were sent. Meaning they may just have received a standard but kind reply from the red cross that no information was available.

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Re: Help reading last line of this record please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 27 January 22 06:45 GMT (UK) »
With respect pH, I have to disagree with you.  Sgt. Tom Hampshire was the brother-in-law of the
deceased soldier, the number 73 refers to his enlistment number in the AIF  with his Btn. being
3 M G  presumably 3rd. Machine Gun Btn.   The Aust. National Archives holds the service record of
Pte. Keys and this record includes 2 letters, one from his mother dated 1919 and one from his wife.
Both are making enquiries re their husband and son.  This was a close family with much discussion regarding the unmarked grave of Pte Keys.   In hindsight, it is nothing short of a miracle that so
many of the fallen were able to be identified and given a marked grave. Those who have not been
so fortunate are always remembered nonetheless.  There are 5 Red Cross reports on Pte. Keys from
eyewitnesses.  It is known where he fell, what occurred and when and as far as this family is
concerned it must be enough.  One of those eyewitnesses visited his wife at the end of the war.
Boland   NSW, Australia
Gibbs   S.Aust. & Queensland
Jennings NSW, Australia
Page  Coventry UK, Queensland Aust.
Sellars (Sellard) Gloucestershire
Kirby  Lechlade, Gloucestershire
Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
Goddard,  Isle of Wight
Cushen, Isle of Wight
Keys,  Tyrone Ireland & NSW Australia