Morris in Llansilin.

[wilcoxon]

Can anyone help. I have no knowledge of this area at all.

OK, so in 1875 at Zion Chapel Oswestry,   Ellen Morris 22 of The Llawnt  Oswestry  father Thomas Morrris farm lab deceased married Edward Morris 24 Lledrode, Llansilin, Father Thomas Morris farm lab. Witnesses John Morris / Catherine Davies.

Having a Morris marrying a Morris was bad enough but both fathers with the same name is worse.
I think I have Edward with his family before the marriage and Edward and Ellen up to 1901 by which they have moved to Froncysllte.
 I have nothing on them after that.

I`m not certain if this is Ellen in 1851 and 1861. I can`t find a birth registration.
My problem is I can`t find any of the children from 1851 except James and can`t find a death for Thomas that fits between 1855 and 1861.
 I cannot find Ellen b 1855 in 1871 and  Mary Morris  seems to have gone missing as well.
 It would have been good of Ellen to marry in   June  1871 but that would have been too easy .

1851  Fach.  Lledrode. All children b Llansilin.
Thomas Morris    47 b Denbigh Llangollen ?
Mary Morris    42 b Llanfechan
Anne Morris    12
Thomas Morris    10
James Moris    8
Moses Moris    6
Jane Moris    4
David Moris    2
Class: HO107; Piece: 1993; Folio: 230; Page: 8;

1861  Fach , Lledrode Llansilin.
Mary Morris 51 ag lab W b Llansilin
James Morris  son 17 b Llansilin
Ellin Morris  dau 6 b Llansilin
Class: RG 9; Piece: 1876; Folio: 29; Page: 8;

I`m not find the family in 1871  but ....
1871 Fach , Lledrode are this family, Mary was a Morris.
John Jones 31
Mary Jones 35    
John Jones 6    
Thomas Jones 4    
Moses Jones 2
Piece:    2779 Folio: 23 Page number: 9

[osprey]

baptism in Llansilin 8 Oct 1854 Elin, daughter of Thomas, labourer, and Mary Morris of Y Fach

birth reg Ellen Morris sept qtr 1854 Oswestry vol 6a pg 590 mmn Roberts

other baptisms to same couple, address noted as Y Fach Lledrod
2 Aug 1835 Robert
18 June 1837 Mary
30 June 1839 Anne
27 June 1847 Jane - birth reg jun qtr 1847 Oswestry vol 18 pg 147 mmn Roberts
27 May 1849 David - birth reg jun qtr 1849 Oswestry vol 18 pg 158 mmn Roberts

possible death reg?
Thomas Morris 55 sept qtr 1860 Oswestry vol 6a pg 375

[osprey]

possible marriage
1 Oct 1831 Llansanffraid ym Mechain, Montgomeryshire
Thomas Morris & Mary Roberts both otp witnesses Robert Evans & Anne Roberts, all marked.

Baptism of eldest child on 1841 census
Llansanffraid 20 Dec 1833 Eliza daughter of Thomas, labourer, and Mary Morris of Llan.

1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77S-2C2

[wilcoxon]

I think it's the same family in 1841 in Fach, but possibly a Catherine Morris 65 born in County with them .
All these close borders are confusing.
Thanks. 

[wilcoxon]

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1851  Fach.  Lledrode. All children b Llansilin.
Thomas Morris    47 b Denbigh Llangollen ?
Mary Morris    42 b Llanfechan
Anne Morris    12
Thomas Morris    10
James Moris    8
Moses Moris    6
Jane Moris    4
David Moris    2
Class: HO107; Piece: 1993; Folio: 230;

Could anyone check the original image and see what they think are pob.
Thanks Osprey for your help.

[Gadget]

Busy at the moment so can't check but just to say that Llangollen parish stretched right down to Llansilin parish.  THere were lots of adjacent praishes in that area - Denbighshire, Shropshire and Montgomeryshire ones.  Many of mine were scattered around them all - they led me a merry dance.

Gadget

[wilcoxon]

I found 17 Morris names on 1 census page of 25 persons.  😩

[wilcoxon]

Busy at the moment so can't check but just to say that Llangollen parish stretched right down to Llansilin parish.  THere were lots of adjacent praishes in that area - Denbighshire, Shropshire and Montgomeryshire ones.  Many of mine were scattered around them all - they led me a merry dance.

Gadget

Thanks.

[Gadget]

Re the 1851

Mary was born Llanfechan, Mont.  and the children all  b. Llansilin