Author Topic: HIlton of Aldie , Fossoway  (Read 687 times)

Offline MonicaL

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 32,053
  • Girl with firewood, Morar 1910 - MEM Donaldson
    • View Profile
Re: HIlton of Aldie , Fossoway
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 13 February 22 22:30 GMT (UK) »
The Grizel/Grace who was born in 1804, she went on to marry Donald Reid in 1831. I think this is her in 1851 with family and her mother:

Donald Reid 45 mason
Grace Reid 45 b. Logierait, perthshire
Isabella Reid 19
Grace Robertson 75 mother in law, Formerly Farmer's Wife b. Logierait, perthshire

Address: Allanach, Logierait

There is a death in Logierait in 1858 for a Grace Robertson/Reid aged 85. Mother's maiden name IMRIE.

I don't know if this connects to John born 1798  :-\ Likely just a co-incidence with couples' names.

Maybe his will and death cert will throw up some more details.

Monica
Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Grierson

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 12
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: HIlton of Aldie , Fossoway
« Reply #10 on: Monday 14 February 22 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Monica you are a star.
The John Reid I had as date of death 1871 is the one you found died 2nd April 1880.
His Will mentions his eldest son John farming at Hilton of Aldie, his second son living with him and on a shared farm tenancy at Ingrie, near Lesley, Fife. his wife Ann Archibald and daughter Grace.

His death certificate states his Father as John Reid and Mother as Mary Reid  M. SI Robertson, so maybe the John Reid's  wife was not Grizel Robertson and I am going down the wrong road. 

Many thanks for all your help.




Offline MonicaL

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 32,053
  • Girl with firewood, Morar 1910 - MEM Donaldson
    • View Profile
Re: HIlton of Aldie , Fossoway
« Reply #11 on: Monday 14 February 22 20:25 GMT (UK) »
I think it is very likely that the informant did not remember the name of John Reid's mother. It is a pain but this happens unfortunately.

You have his baptism don't you? You can view the image of this on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Monica
Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline MonicaL

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 32,053
  • Girl with firewood, Morar 1910 - MEM Donaldson
    • View Profile
Re: HIlton of Aldie , Fossoway
« Reply #12 on: Monday 14 February 22 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Hilton of Aldie  - 
John Reid  was born about 1759 died 2nd April 1801 aged 42,
Son Henry Born about 1793/1795 who died 2nd April 1806 aged 11 years old.
Son James born 5th April 1796, Baptism 10th April 1796 and died 1st August 1822/1823 aged 26
All buried at Crook of Devon Church.


Is this from an inscription at the cemetery?

Monica
Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Offline MonicaL

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 32,053
  • Girl with firewood, Morar 1910 - MEM Donaldson
    • View Profile
Re: HIlton of Aldie , Fossoway
« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 February 22 21:19 GMT (UK) »
From Scotlands People, this looks like a possible death entry for Ann, wife of John:

Ann Reid/Archibald, aged 71
Mother's maiden name GREIG
1881
444/ 40
Leslie (Fife)

Her death cert should include her parents' names....if known by the informant  ::)

There is this possible entry for her birth www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYK8-229

Monica


Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Grierson

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 12
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: HIlton of Aldie , Fossoway
« Reply #14 on: Monday 14 February 22 21:29 GMT (UK) »
I'll check John Reid's baptism and see if his mother is listed.

Yes it is an inscription at our local churchyard
Thanks again

Offline Grierson

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 12
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: HIlton of Aldie , Fossoway
« Reply #15 on: Monday 14 February 22 21:51 GMT (UK) »
First name(s) John
Father's first name(s) John
Last name Reid
Father's last name Reid
Birth year 1798
Father Occupation Farmer
Birth date 04 Jun 1798
Page 194
Baptism year 1798
Archive Ref OPR 461/2
Baptism date 10 Jun 1798
Year Range 1691-1819
Residence Meickletown, Aldie
Item 3
Place Fossoway & Tulliebole
Record set Scotland, Parish Births & Baptisms 1564-1929
County Kinross shire
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Country Scotland
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Grizel
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
Mother's last name Robertson

Offline Grierson

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 12
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: HIlton of Aldie , Fossoway
« Reply #16 on: Monday 14 February 22 21:56 GMT (UK) »
John Reid:      Born 4th June 1798 at Hilton of Aldie, Fossoway
         Died 2nd April 1880 at Ingrie Farm, Leslie, Fife

Married on/at:

Wife:   
Ann Archibald    Born 21st April 1809 Died 12th March 1881
         Died 12th March 1881 at Ingrie Farm, Leslie, Fife

1841 Census      Living at Hilton of Aldie
Occupants John Reid (40) Ann Reid (30) John Reid (8) Frances Reid (6)
Robert Reid (4) Grace Reid (2) David Harley (30) Andrew Tod (18)
Mary Dick (18)

1851 Census      Living at Hilton of Aldie on 97 Acre Tenancy
Occupants John Reid (51) Ann Reid (41) Mary Reid (20)
John Reid (18) Robert Reid (14) Grace Reid (12)
Anne Wilkie (25) (General Maid) Andrew Taylor (24) (GFW)
John Berveridge (20) (GFW)

1861 Census      Living at Hilton of Aldie
Occupants John Reid Senior Ann Reid Robert Reid
Janet Gillis (domestic) James Dugeon (Ploughman)
George Henderson (Cattle Boy)

1871 Census      Living at Ingrie Farm, Leslie, Fife
Joint Tenancy of 200-acre arable farm with second son Robert Reid
Occupants – John Reid (72) Ann Reid (61)
Robert Reid (29) Grace Reid (27) and servant Catherine Clark (26)

 

Children: -
John Reid   Born at Hilton of Aldie 11th June 1832/1833   Died 1913 In Canada
      Married to Catherine Haldane 1839 – 1907

Frances Reid   Maybe a child – see 1841 Census  - RESEARCH FURTHER may have died young?

Mary Reid   Born at Hilton of Aldie 1831 –

Robert Reid   Born at Hilton of Aldie 8th March 1837

Grace Reid   Born at Hilton of Aldie 1839 Died at Freuchie, Scotland 1931
      Was single at time of death.


Offline MonicaL

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 32,053
  • Girl with firewood, Morar 1910 - MEM Donaldson
    • View Profile
Re: HIlton of Aldie , Fossoway
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 15 February 22 20:57 GMT (UK) »
How about this possible marriage for daughter Mary?

Mary Reid and David Anderson
1859
461/ 10
Fossoway and Tulliebole

They look to have a daughter named Grace Robertson Anderson b. 6 May 1872 in Portmoak,Kinross.

Possible 1861:

David Anderson 31 Farmer Of 100 Acres Employing 2 Ploughman 1 Boy 2 Dairy Maids b. Dunning Perthshire
Mary Anderson    30 b. Fossoway
Ann Anderson 3 Months    
...and 5 servants

Address: 1 Well Haugh, Dollar, Clackmannashire

Monica

Added: Baby Ann's birth, on 4 Jan 1861 in Dollar, is registered as Ann Archibald Anderson, called after Mary's mother we would think.
Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk