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Re: To fill in the blanks or not?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 March 22 00:40 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Ann Hardy was apparently 33 when she married William in 1886, and herself a widow. I suspect she probably died in 1889, in Leic infirmary; there was a burial in Welford Rd for a 36 year old Sarah Ann Ward on 23 Oct 1889. Unfortunately there are no other Ward burials in her grave to give a further clue as to whether this was indeed her.

TURNER   MATILDA   1865   OCT   27   age 52 LEICESTER UNION HOUSE   
DAVIS   ---   1865   OCT   27   STBN   1 GREEN STREET  CHILD OF MARY
PAWLEY   JOSEPH EDWIN   1882   JAN   10   2   NEW HUMBERSTONE
PAWLEY   WALTER NIXON   1882   JAN   23   8MTHS   NEW HUMBERSTONE   
NIXON   JAMES   1888   FEB   4   59   LEICESTER BOROUGH ASYLUM
WARD   SARAH ANN   1889   OCT   23   36   LEICESTER INFIRMARY

The marriage shows Sarah Ann's father as James Nixon, so the man by that name buried in the same grave in 1888 is probably her father.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: To fill in the blanks or not?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 March 22 06:41 GMT (UK) »
The two Pawley children buried with Sarah Ann Ward had a mother, Ellen Nixon (sister to Sarah Ann).
Marriage 1878 -Ellen Nixon and Joseph Pawley (Pawley), Leicester.
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Re: To fill in the blanks or not?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 March 22 08:23 GMT (UK) »
There you go! I hadn't looked at Sarah Ann's family but that seems to prove that this was indeed the right woman.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
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Re: To fill in the blanks or not?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 March 22 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Yes that was a good find Annie  :)
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Re: To fill in the blanks or not?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 March 22 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Was the 7th child b 1885 called George and bapt Leicester 8 July 1886 s/o William and Maria, buried 16 July 1886 age 7 months? Address 21 West Holme Street
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: To fill in the blanks or not?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 March 22 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Burial at Welford Rd (the main civic cemetery in Leicester at this time)

Annie Maria Ward of West Holme St, age 32, on 28 Nov 1885.

This grave is shared with the following:
GAMBLE   JOHN JOSEPH   1857   FEB   4   age 10   LEICESTER UNION HOUSE   
GAMBLE   MARY   1857   JUN   14   36   LEICESTER UNION HOUSE   
GAMBLE   SAMUEL   1857   JUL   23   2   LEICESTER UNION HOUSE   
GAMBLE   THOMAS   1857   DEC   3   4   LEICESTER UNION HOUSE   
WARD   JOHN   1880   JUN   21   10MTHS   FOXON STREET   

(1857 was clearly a rotten year for the Gamble family. Were they related to the Wards? Given the time between them, possibly not).

It looks like Mary was born Mary Collier , wife of George Gamble (married 1846). Can't see a link to the Ward family either. Must have just reused the grave for the Ward infant
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: To fill in the blanks or not?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 01 March 22 09:49 GMT (UK) »
I read all the time about hitting the wall and I've certainly hit one now. My gggGrandfather was married and had 6 children. His wife died 7 days after childbirth of the 7th child in 1885 at the age of 32. In 1886 the youngest 2 children were baptised and on the baptism record the mother's name appears, it's not the same name as the mother who died! I thought maybe he'd remarried but at the 1891 census the family are lodgers in a neighbouring house and there is no woman, just the father and 5 of the children. He's disappeared by the 1901 census and the children have gone their separate ways, the father died in 1904.  I'm at a loss what to do next so can anyone point me in the right direction. Please ? Or in fact should I not even try to fill in the blanks ? Any response would be appreciated

Possible for 1901, lodger with Badham family, Occupation Pipe cleaner elastic braid machines, b Loughborough

Piece  3008, Folio 183, Page 28
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: To fill in the blanks or not?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 01 March 22 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annie65115 you're amazing! i've been looking for Sarah Anne for weeks. i recently got William's death certificate and was shocked to find he died in the borough assylum, as local kids we always referred to it as the loonybin....if only we'd known. I have no idea of the Gamble family and haven't come across any connections with Ann Maria Reeves so that was a surprise too. Thank you so much for this .
regards lynne cox formerly Ward  ;) ;)
Ward, Bentley, Reeves, Sharpe. Everett, Rowe.
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Re: To fill in the blanks or not?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 01 March 22 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi LizzieL Ann Maria was born Reeves in 1853 and married William in 1873, she died 7 days after childbirth but I can't find any record of the baby. I always assumed it was the youngest daughter Esther but she was born in 1883 and I looked at the GRO records for proof of that. I have come up against bad handwriting, incredibly bad transcriptions and completely wrong details that I know are wrong. Thank you so much for giving me this opportunity to check out the information.
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Ward, Bentley, Reeves, Sharpe. Everett, Rowe.
 Cox, Bulgin,