Grandparents married in Hull

[uksouthafrica]

Paternal grandfather Frederick Batchelor (born in Hull 1871) married Elizabeth Emily Burgess in Hull, Yorkshire East Riding June 1897. I’d like to know when they came to South Africa where my father Frederick Warren Batchelor (2 birth certificates one listed as Batchelder) and his older brother Edward were born in Cape Town. I’d be so grateful for information about my grandparents.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Here they are in 1911

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7T9-3M3

Looks like they went out sometime between Dennis and Joseph being born, so c 1904

Added: just to note, although Frederick's dob differs from your post, this is them as the English born children have mother's maiden name Burgess

I've just realised I have neither of the children you mention, so were they born after 1911, or do we have the wrong names for the parents?

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Fred departed London for Capetown on 8 April 1903. No other family members with him. Dennis' birth was registered July-Sept 1903, so Elizabeth and the others must have followed on later

think I have them: 27 Feb 1904 on the SS German from Southampton. Mrs E Batchelor, aged 27, Master H aged 2 and Master D aged 1

[Mabel Bagshawe]

And coming back (although the children don't fit!). Arrived January 1907 in Southampton from Capetown on the Dover Castle

Mr F (bricklayer) and Mrs E, aged 30. Miss W aged 4, Master HD aged 2 and Master DH aged 1 (born in South Africa)

Amended

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I am definitely doubting this is the right family. There were two more children. Frederick Douglas in 1912 and Sylvia in 1915. The family are still in Hull in 1921 and 1939

[Mabel Bagshawe]

is this your father's baptism? If so, you have incorrect information about his parents

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:DPM3-QW2M

[Neale1961]

Going on from Mabel's post above .....

Did your father Frederick Warren BATCHELDER marry Christina Johanna CONRADIE in Capetown in 1940?
Did Frederick Warren BATCHELDER die on 28 Oct 1961 ?  - and his occupation was a clerk in provincial administration?
If that is correct, then his birth was 31 Jan 1906 to parents Arthur and Sophia Margaret BATCHELDER.

His father Arthur BATCHELDER died Capetown 29 Jan 1922. Occupation - shoemaker, age 67
Born abt 1855, Birthplace England

Added: This Frederick Warren also had a sister - Elizabeth Naomi Batchelder born 17 May 1903

[mckha489]

Deleted. Duplicated

[Neale1961]

I wonder if this is the brother - named Edward James BATCHELDER born about 1902, and he died in 1963. I did not see a baptism record for him in Sth Africa, but his d.o.b. is given as 5 July 1902 on his death cert.
He was a clerk in the post office. Edward married Ruth Elizabeth TRAUTMANN (formerly DOWLING) in 1939 Cape town.