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Edwin MERRIFIELD
« on: Wednesday 23 March 22 17:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I am looking to try and find details of my Great Grandfather Edwin Merrifield who was registered at the Mile End Old Town Industrial School on the 1871 Census but I do not know who to write to or contact for more information.

Any help please??

David E. Merrifield

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Re: Edwin MERRIFIELD
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 March 22 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat  :)

There might be some information via this site.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/1a2feeb7-0116-4f45-815c-71d17b9c71fe

Just in case you haven’t found him in 1861, I think this could be him. He was registered as Edwin Williams Merrifield.

1861 297/4/9

Mary Williams 70 yrs
Helen Merryfield   daughter 29 yrs
Edwin Williams   grandson 3 yrs
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Re: Edwin MERRIFIELD
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 March 22 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Heywood,

Thanks for what you have sent me.  I will look at the National Archives when I can.  Have been to a few web pages with their name on and also the London Metropolitan Archives but couldn't really work out where exactly to look after that.  With a bit of time I will search a bit more.

I had come across Edwin Williams Merrifield but the year of birth wasn't quite right and then couldn't find him anywhere else so thanks for perhaps explaining his background and finding him in the 1861 Census.

A bit for me to look at further.  I will post again when I've done some more.

Thank you

David

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Re: Edwin MERRIFIELD
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 March 22 21:48 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Another "Welcome to RootsChat"  :)


You may have seen this page about the workhouse, but just in case,

https://www.workhouses.org.uk/MileEndOldTown/


Regards,
Daisy
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Re: Edwin MERRIFIELD
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 March 22 21:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Daisy,

Yes I have seen this page thank you.  Appreciate you sending it to me though.

Regards,

David

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Re: Edwin MERRIFIELD
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 March 22 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Births March qtr 1858   

Merrifield    Edwin Williams         Mile End    1c   571

GRO online has him incorrectly spelt as Menifield - no mothers maiden name so he was illegitimate.  I have reported the error to GRO

Mary Williams was b Deptford Kent & Helen Plymouth Devon.  Helen is shown as married but there is no matching marriage found

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Re: Edwin MERRIFIELD
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 March 22 08:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carole W,

Thanks for this information but have to say I am even more confused than I was previously.  If he has been Christened Edwin Williams MERRIFIELD, together with the information supplied by Heywood I've guessed that his Mother was Helen MERRYFIELD / MERRIFIELD who is really the only woman of child bearing age in the residence found on the 1861 Census.  Helen and Edwin are noted as daughter and Grandson (and I assume) to Mary WILLIAMS so surely if his Mother was Helen she would have a maiden name of WILLIAMS?

If this is not the case how else do I explain these 3 living together?  Do have to say that I'm a bit surprised that Helen was born in Plymouth!!!  I need to find out the address of the 1861 Census but effectively Mary was born in Kent, moved to Plymouth and had Helen, then they both moved back to Mile End where Helen had Edwin.  Not impossible but surely quite strange for those times.

I take it the records you have seen show no Father's name?  I do not know how you have been able to search for this birth record and find it.  Is this something I can do?

To conclude, I am still uncertain whether or not I have traced my Great Grandfather 'Edwin'.  On the 1901, 1891 and 1881 Censuses (what is the correct word for multiple Census???) he has declared his age each time that would give him a year of birth as 1855.  I then lost his thread but found an Edwin Merrifield registered at the Mile End Old Town Industrial School on the 1871 Census however he was declared as being aged 12 which would give him a year of birth as 1859.  I want to see if I can get any records from the school to see when he was admitted and discharged and under what circumstances.

We then have Edwin Williams Merrifield on the 1861 Census aged 3 which would be a year of birth as 1858.  To make things worse my Great Grandfather has shown both Bow and Stepney as his place of birth but never Mile End.  I know they are all in the same sort of area but think they would be classed as different places.

I shall continue to see if I can get anything from the old records of the Industrial School and see if that sheds any light on it and do some checks on Helen Merryfield.  If she wasn't married why isn't she Helen Williams?  There must have been a Mr. Merryfield somewhere I guess.

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David

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Re: Edwin MERRIFIELD
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 March 22 09:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Heywood,

Are you able to advise the details of the address on the 1861 Census at all please?

Regards,

David

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Re: Edwin MERRIFIELD
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 March 22 11:19 GMT (UK) »
The address is 21 Edward Street Stepney.
Helen is shown as married but I do not see a marriage.
You can send for a copy of the birth certificate  https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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