Mary Cox

[StefanD99]

Hi all,
I need help, please to find the origins of my ancestor Mary Cox.
This is the earliest reference I have that is definitely her;

Marriage 6th June 1825 Ilmington, Warwickshire
Giles Smith Mason and Mary Cox
No mention of their marital status, both of this parish in the register.

Then later;
         CENSUS      1841      
Wharf Inn, Ilmington, Shipston on Stour, Warwickshire                     
Surname   Names   Rel.   Status   Age   Born   Occupation   Place Born
Mason   Giles                          40   1801                    Warwickshire
Mason   Mary                          40   1801      
Mason   Giles                          15   1826      
Mason   William                  15   1826                    Warwickshire
Mason   Thomas                  12   1829                    Warwickshire

Mary's birth shown out of Warwickshire, as is son Giles. I cannot find Giles junior other than this;

Burial 25th January 1846 Ilmington
Giles Smith age 23 born c.1823
which suggests he was born before the couple married.

Later census show Mary born either Broadway, in Worcestershire, or Stockton, in Herefordshire.

         CENSUS      1851      
Frog Lane, Ilmington, Warwickshire                     
Surname   Names   Rel.   Status   Age   Born   Occupation          Place Born
Smith   Giles          Head   married   53   1798   Journeyman Smith   Ilmington
Smith   Mary          Wife   married   58   1793                      Broadway, Worcester
Smith   William   Son              25   1826   Ag Lab                   Ilmington

         CENSUS      1861      
Frog Lane, Ilmington, Shipston                     
Surname   Names   Rel.   Status   Age   Born   Occupation   Place Born
Smith   Giles          Head   married   62   1799   Blacksmith   Ilmington
Smith   Mary         Wife   married   72   1789              Stockton, Herefordshire
Smith   William   Son              36   1825   Labourer           Ilmington


Burial 16 May 1872 Ilmington
Mary Smith age 80 born c.1792


There is also this;

         CENSUS      1841      
Wharf Inn, Ilmington                     
Surname   Names   Rel.   Status   Age   Born   Occupation   Place Born
Cox          Samuel   Head               50   1791      
Cox         Elizabeth                  50   1791                     Warwickshire
Cox          George                   7   1834                     Warwickshire
Cattle   Martha                   5   1836      

Same location, same family name and both born out of county, Samuel could be related to Mary.
Unfortunately;
Burial 14 July 1845 Ilmington
Samuel Cox age 54 born c.1791

so no further information on Samuel's origin in later census.

An earlier marriage gives;
Marriage 16 August 1821 Ilmington
Samuel Cox, a bachelor, of Marston Sicca, in Gloucestershire,
and Elizabeth Sharlett, a spinster, of this parish.

Nothing there that seems to help.
I haven't managed to find her. So going down a different rabbit hole,
if Mary had been a widow when she married Giles then these may be relevant;

Burial 10 September 1824 Ilmington
Thomas Cox age 29 born c.1795

preceeded by;
Christening 9 November 1823 Ilmington, Warwickshire
Harriett Cox
Parents Thomas and Mary Cox

preceeded by a straw-clutching;
Marriage 12 January 1823 Herefordshire
Mary Watkins and Thomas Cox

and

Christening 6 July 1800 Dilwyn, Herefordshire
Mary Watkins


However, it only works if Giles junior was Harriett, and if that doesn't cast enough doubt there is;


Marriage 23 January 1827 Ilmington
Mary Cox (widow) and Thomas Handy (widow)

         CENSUS      1851      
Middle Street, Ilmington                     
Surname   Names   Rel.          Status   Age   Born   Occupation   Place Born
Handy   Thomas   Head      married   52   1799   Ag Lab          Ilmington
Handy   Mary     Wife        married   59   1792                    Horley,Oxon
Cox           William   Son in Law*single   32   1819   Carrier         Horley,Oxon
*Stepson                     

Can anyone see something else?

Stefan

[spendlove]

Hi,

The 1841 Census, you have. Giles Mason aged 15 (this is a rounded down age, so aged 15-19), however on the Census he is listed as Giles Cox.

As both Mary Cox and Giles are born out of county, suggest she had Giles prior to her marriage.

Think this is a possible Bpt

Ebrington, Gloucestershire 10th December 1822

Giles Cox Illegitimate son of Mary Cox.  Residence Ebrington,

This would fit with the burial for Giles Smith you show.

[StefanD99]

Thankyou, Spendlove,
While FreeCen has Giles as Cox, FS has him as Mason, though I was thinking he may be christened as a Cox and had searched with that in mind. FS doesn't locate his christening even if I put in all the details you provided.
I suspect it will not help find Mary.
Cheers
Stefan

[LizzieL]

There is also this;

         CENSUS      1841      
Wharf Inn, Ilmington                     
Surname   Names   Rel.   Status   Age   Born   Occupation   Place Born
Cox          Samuel   Head               50   1791      
Cox         Elizabeth                  50   1791                     Warwickshire
Cox          George                   7   1834                     Warwickshire
Cattle   Martha                   5   1836      

Same location, same family name and both born out of county, Samuel could be related to Mary.
Unfortunately;
Burial 14 July 1845 Ilmington
Samuel Cox age 54 born c.1791

so no further information on Samuel's origin in later census.

An earlier marriage gives;
Marriage 16 August 1821 Ilmington
Samuel Cox, a bachelor, of Marston Sicca, in Gloucestershire,
and Elizabeth Sharlett, a spinster, of this parish.

Nothing there that seems to help.
I haven't managed to find her. So going down a different rabbit hole,

Possibly Elizabeth Cox widow and family in 1851

Piece  2076, Folio 47 Page 15

[StefanD99]

Thanks, Lizzie, I already have them, but after Samuel's death, who could have been Mary's brother, I've discounted help from that direction.
Stefan

[spendlove]

Hi StefanD99

You cannot find the Bpt., of Giles Cox on Familysearch because the do not have records for Bpt after approx 1812, they do have a few transcripts from Shakespeare’s trust but this does not include the Giles Cox Bpt.

This is connection to what the hold for Ebrington

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=12604&query=%2Bplace%3A%22England%2C%20Gloucestershire%2C%20Ebrington%22&subjectsOpen=417576-50

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

In case this is relevant,

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rhd/

It's only 8 miles away.


Do you think it's possible that Giles COX / MASON / SMITH was not baptised as Giles but took the name when Giles SMITH MASON married Mary COX.

Regards,
Daisy

[StefanD99]

Thanks, Spendlove, for the information about FS records, that explains that then.
I've been searching for Mary Cox and have found;

Marriage 6 December 1811 Ebrington
Thomas Cox and Sarah Carter

Christening 2 April 1812 Ebrington, Gloucestershire
Mary Cox
Parents Thomas and Sarah Cox

Too young to be my Mary, possibly her aunt. Also this, which needs more investigation, in the next village;

Christening 16 April 1799 Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire
Mary Bubb Cox

Thanks, Daisypetal, but I think that might be another Mary as the baptism Spendlove found predates it;
Christening 10 December 1822, Ebrington, Gloucestershire
Giles Cox (illegitimate)
Mother Mary Cox

Or either of the men might have been the father, and Mary was hedging her bets, Mamma Mia!
I see Mr Pimm ignored the order, so naming the bambino Giles may have been a mistake.
Worth looking at anyway, ciao.

Stefan