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1786 Berlin death
« on: Friday 29 April 22 03:17 BST (UK) »
Hoping someone can translate the attached 1786 death for Johann Gottfried ZIETEMANN.

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Ian C
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Re: 1786 Berlin death
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 April 22 11:22 BST (UK) »
1 Mann, Johann Gottfried Zietemann, Bürger auch Kunst-
und Lustgärtner, hat in der Holtzmarckt-Straße gewohnet vor
dem Strahlauer Thor, ist daselbst d. 29 Junii, Nachmittag um
halb 5 Uhr am Stickfluß gestorben, ist 76 jahr alt geworden,
er ist ein Wittwer und hinterläßt noch 4 Kinder, als 3 Söhne
und 1 Tochter; so alle majorenn sind. Auch hinterläßt er
von seiner vor ihm verstorbenen Tochter, so an den Seiffensieder
Meister Henneberg verheirathet gewesen, und in der Rosen-Straße
wohnhafft, noch 4 Kinder nehmlich, 3 Söhne und 1 Tochter, so alle noch
minorenne Kinder sind.


A man, Johann Gottfried Zietemann, citizen and garden artist
died on the 29 June at 4 pm, on Stickfluss, in his home in the  Holtzmarckt-Straße, near the Strahlauer Thor, aged 76.
He was a widow and left 4 children, all of age, 3 sons and 1 daughter
He also left 4 illigitimate children, all under age, from his deceased daughter who was married to the soaper Master Henneberg, resident in the Rosenstraße


Stickfluß = Asthma or pulmonary oedem

Kunst- und Lustgärtner = Garden artist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasure_garden

Dave

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Re: 1786 Berlin death
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 April 22 15:24 BST (UK) »
Dave - your deciphering skills and knowledge of German are far better than mine, but I didn't see anything about any illegitimate children. I took it to mean that he left 4 children of his own, all adult, and that a daughter who had pre-deceased him also left 4 children, all minors. It's not stated explicitly, but these would presumably be his grandchildren.

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Re: 1786 Berlin death
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 April 22 15:48 BST (UK) »
Yes, your right. Thanks
I got the word right in the German transcription
The word is "nehmlich" - namely
don´t know how i got that mixed up in the English translation

Thanks again
Dave


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Re: 1786 Berlin death
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 April 22 02:12 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Dave and Arthur.

This can now be closed.

Ian C
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