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Offline Talacharn

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Re: Request help looking up Job Rees and his wife Jamima
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 May 22 17:24 BST (UK) »
For the marriage it is not there. The FreeBMD should hold all marriages. I also used Soundex for variations of names and opened up the search, both years and locations.
There was no baptism for a Job Rees anywhere in England/Wales. Before 1837, you are looking for baptisms, but around 75% of chapels have not handed them over to be placed on a database. Being Welsh, they may have used chapel rather than church. For UK baptisms, I consider Find My Past better as many councils passed their archives to them, though I tend to find records on the free sites like FreeREG and Family Search. I do not subscribe to a paid site.
I am questioning, as the records I would expect to be found are not being offered.

Added: You could also use https://www.familysearch.org/en/ which is free, though you do have to register.

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Re: Request help looking up Job Rees and his wife Jamima
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 May 22 18:45 BST (UK) »
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3333954/3333957/13/
Interesting article about a John Rees, who fled after the Chartist Riots to America in 1841. It might not be him, but worth knowing about, as there was considerable unrest.

As they left around 1840, there may be passenger lists. Some on RootsChat could find them, but it is beyond me in using the free sites. If they can be found with the ship, it might give previous locations and then start tracing them.

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Re: Request help looking up Job Rees and his wife Jamima
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 03 May 22 18:57 BST (UK) »
That is such a great find, thank you. Definitely not our John Rees, but the context is great. I'm just so frustrated that I can't figure out if this Reese family is from Glamorgan, Carmarthen, or Cardigan. Ugh.

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Re: Request help looking up Job Rees and his wife Jamima
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 03 May 22 19:03 BST (UK) »
I think this record references Carmarthen County...what do you think?


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Re: Request help looking up Job Rees and his wife Jamima
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 03 May 22 21:23 BST (UK) »
So Enoch was born October 1782 and left Wales in July 1818 so his father must have been born rather earlier than 1777 as mentioned in your first post.

What was the name of his wife? Was he already married when he arrived?

There's an 1804 marriage in Llanfihangel ar Arth for Enoch Rees & Jane David, and one of the witnesses is a John Rees.

Doesn't look like r in the place name to me, more like s but Casmas... doesn't make much sense.

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Re: Request help looking up Job Rees and his wife Jamima
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 03 May 22 21:40 BST (UK) »
Wow, that is incredibly helpful! I'm focused on that Enoch as possibly our John Rees' uncle! And that Enoch did marry a woman named Jane.

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Re: Request help looking up Job Rees and his wife Jamima
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 16:16 BST (UK) »
If born 1782, the marriage Osprey found could be the one, as he would be 22:
St Michael Parish Register Llanfihangel-ar-arth Carmarthenshire . 92
16 Jul 1804 . Banns/Mark of bride and groom
Enoch Rees . Bachelor . LLanfihangel-ar-Arth
Jane David . Spinster . LLanfihangel-ar-Arth
Witnesses: David John John Rees

It is the only marriage to a Jane I can find.
From the image, I cannot make out the place, but it could be Carmarthen.
Of the other counties in Wales, it certainly does not look like any of them.
I cannot find a baptism that fits 1782 in Wales, the nearest being in the 1760s.
Where is the evidence you think it is Glamorganshire?

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Re: Request help looking up Job Rees and his wife Jamima
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 22:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much. I thought there might be Glamorganshire roots based on another Enoch Rees in Cambria County, whose naturalization records referenced Glamorganshire. But now that I've found John Rees' naturalization record, I'm convinced he is from Carmarthenshire...although I cannot figure out what parish.

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Re: Request help looking up Job Rees and his wife Jamima
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 23:23 BST (UK) »
The place letters I can read are CA_MA_N, so the only county that fits is Carmarthen.

I return to a comment I made earlier. What was the boat called? If you have found them arriving in America, they must have left some time before. Members of RootsChat might be able to find a passenger list with further information.

Other than Carmarthen, are there any place names on John's paperwork?