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Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« on: Wednesday 04 May 22 01:53 BST (UK) »
I need help with a brick wall on my tree Mary Fortt (nee Fisk)
born 1795 / 1796 Watchet, Somerset, England?
She married William Fortt (1796–1880) from Bath Somerset.
No one and Ancestry or any other sites have tried has any information about where she came from parents, siblings or pictures of her.

I have seen a few people post a William Fisk as the father with no proof or information on him. A William Fisk was at their wedding that is all I can find about him.

Shortly after Mary's death William Fortt married a Ruth Fisk (nee James)
Ruth's husband Thomas Samuel Fisk (born About. 1791 • Orsett, Essex, England)  committed suicide in Paglesham, Essex 1843. I am wondering if Thomas is related to Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) in some way?

I have made no movement on this and need help.
I have loads of information about Mary's children but nothing further up about her before marriage

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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 08:16 BST (UK) »
What year did she marry? 

Does the marriage give any information at all ie was she a spinster, of this parish, who were the witnesses.

Presume it was pre certificate times.

When did she die? 

Presume she doesn’t appear on any census with birth place.
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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 10:06 BST (UK) »
Anc trees link to a marriage

Mary Fisk Spinster - William Fortt Bachelor

6 Oct 1818 Marriage  Bath, St Michael, Somerset

Mary was of the parish of Walcot - Witnesses William Fisk and Sophia Larstell???

Kay

Added in 1841 she is shown as not born in the Somerset

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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 15:16 BST (UK) »

When did she die? 

Presume she doesn’t appear on any census with birth place.

 She died 11 MAY 1846 • Bath, Somerset, England

I have her in the 1841 England Census
Somerset
St Michael
ALL  District 2

on the Census it on only asks were were you born in the Same county where on her line it is marked "N" (no)

What is meant by County in England? (I am first generation Canadian)

The census gave a space for people to indicate if they were were born in Scotland, Ireland or a foreign country which was left blank. That would mean she was born in England I assume.
 

She is my 3rd Great grandmother


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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 15:20 BST (UK) »
County in England is like a district for example Somerset is a County, Dorset, Wiltshire, Yorkshire, Lancashire etc.

If the census was taken in Somerset and there is an N for No it means she wasn't born in Somerset.

Later census have a space for place of birth so it's always more difficult if someone died before 1851 as you just get a Yes or No.
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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 15:26 BST (UK) »
There is a Mary Fisk baptised 26 Dec 1798 Parish of Stowmarket County of Suffolk

father William Fisk

mother Susan Chapman Fisk

There's a Susan Fisk death age 91 in the same area in 1858 but don't know if the same lady.

Death for William Fisk age 72 same area 1838.
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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 15:35 BST (UK) »
I also found her on https://www.fiskes.co.uk/ as born in 17-- it had less information than I had on her, but I did find the right one after some frustration.

Mary was 45 in 1841 most people post her date of birth as 1796. The census only asked for an age at the time of the census. That being the case in 1841 she could of been 44 turned 45 or 45 turning 46.
Since I don't have her birth day or the exact date of the census in the are I can figure out the exact year.

If a skilled genealogist out there has any bright Ideas that would be great on ancestry alone Mary Fortt Nee Fisk is a brick-wall on over 20 trees.   

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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 15:39 BST (UK) »
On the 1841 census adult ages were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5 years. 

So anyone from 25-29 would have 25 for example. 

Give or take, so again makes it more difficult for us.

The 1841 census was taken on the night of 6 June.
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