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Maiden name on birth certificate
« on: Thursday 05 May 22 15:26 BST (UK) »
It seems that a married woman with a German/Danish surname gave birth out of wedlock in 1919 to a little boy, giving her maiden name and not naming the father on the birth certificate: presumably all as the result of a war-time affair. (The husband was English, not German, but had taken the surname of a Danish uncle whom he lived with in Liverpool as his father died a few weeks after his birth.) Is this a probable enough chain of events to encourage us to think we have identified the mother? (German name - war time affair - maiden name given.) The baby on the birth certificate had two Xtn names, and the person we think he was had the same two Xtn names, but on his death certificate many years later, the birth date is one day different from on the birth certificate. In 1919, were adopted boys given different Xtn names, or did they keep their birth names and only get an adoptive surname?
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Re: Maiden name on birth certificate
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 May 22 16:06 BST (UK) »
In 1919 the name of the father of an illegitimate child could not be named on the birth certificate unless he attended the registration.

Official Formal adoption didn’t take place until after the Adoption Act of 1926. Prior to that some private adoptions were legalised through a solicitor, but generally it was just a casual arrangement.

As for the name change it depended on the individuals concerned, from 1927 the child took the adoptive surname as all connections with the birth family are legally registered severed.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Maiden name on birth certificate
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 May 22 16:16 BST (UK) »
Birth date is 1 day different from date when death is registered.  Unfortunately you don't register your own death.  :-\

DOH!!! - you don't register your own birth either, do you?  :-X
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Re: Maiden name on birth certificate
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 May 22 16:20 BST (UK) »
If the child was handed over at birth - or very shortly afterwards - the foster/adoptive parents may have preferred a different first christian name than was given by the mother.

Have you found him on the 1921 census?
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Re: Maiden name on birth certificate
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 May 22 17:14 BST (UK) »
The baby on the birth certificate had two Xtn names, and the person we think he was had the same two Xtn names
In 1919, were adopted boys given different Xtn names

Can you please explain what "Xtn names" means?

It's not something I've encountered before in research?

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Re: Maiden name on birth certificate
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 May 22 17:28 BST (UK) »
Can you please explain what "Xtn names" means?
It's not something I've encountered before in research?
Annie
"Christian" maybe, I'm just guessing. as in two given names or two Christian names.

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Re: Maiden name on birth certificate
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 May 22 17:46 BST (UK) »
"Christian" maybe, I'm just guessing. as in two given names or two Christian names.

Thank you oldhiohome, I see it now but text language/abbreviations isn't exactly helpful, it isn't quite the same as genealogy abbreviations!

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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Re: Maiden name on birth certificate
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 May 22 17:57 BST (UK) »

Can you please explain what "Xtn names" means?

I was tempted to reply, "Very little, these days." Sorry if it was confusing - I thought it was common enough, as is Xty for Christianity.

But more seriously, if one has forebears called Christopher and its variants (e.g. Christover), it often appears abbreviated in parish records in the 1600s using X from Greek for Ch, usually followed by r or even p (from the Greek rho). My 'lot' were in Wiltshire at the time, and I have found the name abbreviated like that often, perhaps as Xpofer

I didn't mean to be obscure. These days I tend to use 'forenames' in view of the decline in Christianity in Britain, but my abbreviation here was due to laziness, at Xtn is so much quicker to type.

I confess it irritates me when people use abbreviations whose meanings I do not know. Am I forgiven?
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Re: Maiden name on birth certificate
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 May 22 18:02 BST (UK) »
"Christian" maybe, I'm just guessing. as in two given names or two Christian names.

Thank you oldhiohome, I see it now but text language/abbreviations isn't exactly helpful, it isn't quite the same as genealogy abbreviations!


Annie, I was interested in this and looked it up. It's definitely not modern text language: the usage of X for Christ as in Christian, Christened, Christopher apparently dates back several hundred years.
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