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Samuel Dinenage, Canterbury
« on: Friday 13 May 22 02:39 BST (UK) »
Samuel was born in Canterbury in around 1795, and died around 1855, possibly in Woolwich or Gravesend. He was my 3rd great grandfather. I know quite a bit about his life and times - he was a soldier for most of his life, fought at Waterloo in the 95th Rifles (or 95th Foot Regiment), and married a Frenchwoman, Felicity Pinnin in Versailles, 1829. I've tried Ancestry, Find My Past and Wikitree  and I can't find a single mention of Samuel's parents. Any hints on where to look would be much appreciated.

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Re: Samuel Dinenage, Canterbury
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 May 22 21:45 BST (UK) »
Confirmation that he died in 1855

DINENAGE, SAMUEL       60 
GRO Reference: 1855  D Quarter in GRAVESEND AND MILTON  Volume 02A  Page 152
 
Gives a birth year of 1795 assuming that his age at death is correct.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Samuel Dinenage, Canterbury
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 May 22 21:58 BST (UK) »
There could be a possibility that his surname has been corrupted and may have been Dinnage.  Where did you find the information about his marriage and how did you know that he was born in Canterbury?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Samuel Dinenage, Canterbury
« Reply #3 on: Friday 13 May 22 22:18 BST (UK) »
I see from a pension record that Samuel's birth place is stated as being Burgate, Canterbury, Kent.

I can't seem to find a record of a baptism for him.  I wonder if it might be worth while contacting the Kent Family History Society to see if they have any baptism records for Burgate. Below is the contact page for the society:-

https://www.kfhs.org.uk/contact

I suspect his baptism record may be hard to find assuming that he was baptised.

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Samuel Dinenage, Canterbury
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 May 22 00:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your replies, much appreciated. Information was from Ancestry.com. and I've got plenty of information about the military side of his life - I was interested to find out that he was a "pensioner" at Woolwich Barracks, which is where I leant to ride many, many years ago. I don't know why but I'm having trouble tracking most of my father's side of the family past the 3rd great grandparents. I think I expected more information to be available about Samuel as he had a few interesting descendants - Fred Dinenage who is/was an English tv person/presenter? and James Dinenage who went down on the Titanic, body never recovered.

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Re: Samuel Dinenage, Canterbury
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 May 22 07:37 BST (UK) »
Ah yes Fred, link to information about him:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Dinenage

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Samuel Dinenage, Canterbury
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 May 22 11:18 BST (UK) »
Looked through Marriage register for Versailles for 1829 and 1815 (suggested by some on Ancestry and closer in date to Napoleonic wars). Have also looked through 10 year tables of marriages, but not come up with anything yet. I was hoping that if I found the marriage entry, we would also have Samuel's parents' names.
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Re: Samuel Dinenage, Canterbury
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 May 22 13:08 BST (UK) »
Hello
This is really weird but bear with me.
I looked up baptisms for Canterbury looking for siblings
There is a Joseph Dinenage  and his wife Martha having children through the 1820's and 1830's
Joseph married Martha Ewell 9.12.1822 and they had
Joseph 29.10.1823 at St Mary Breadman White Horse Lane shoemaker
William 30.1.1825
Thomas 2.7.1826 Hospital lane cordwainer
Sophia 6.4.1828 Jewry Lane cordwainer
Mary Ann 18.7.1830 Jewry Lane labourer
Joseph 29.4.1832 Jewry Lane labourer
William Thomas 9.3.1834 Jewry lane cordwainer
Charles 14.2.1836 Jury Lane cordwainer
Martha 8.4.1838 White Horse Lane Cordwainer


Now on the 1841 and 1851 censuses we have them as PITT
1841 White Horse Lane
Joseph Pitt 70 gunmaker y
Joseph Pitt 40  pig dealer y
Martha 38 y
Mary Ann 11 y
Joseph 9
William 7
Martha 3
George 9 mths

1851 19 Military Road
Joseph Pitt 50 cordwainer Canterbury
Martha 48 Malden Essex
Mary ann 20 dress maker Canterbury
Joseph 18  carpenters apprentice
William 17 cordwainer
Martha 13
George 10
Elizabeth 7
Caroline 4

George  Pitt baptised 11.9.1840 White Horse Lane cowkeeper
Caroline Pitt 14.2.1847 l gregory cordwainer birth reg gives mother Elwell
On daughter Carolines's marriage Joseph is Joseph Dinanage Pitt green grocer

So they have changed their name to Pitt for some reason.

And Joseph is baptised as Pitt 26.5.1799 s of Joseph and Ann Pitt at St Mary Mag Canterbury
He had a brother Samuel Pitt -entry says privately baptised at Birmingham 24.4.1795 and publically in this church 26.5.1799

Could this be your Samuel Dinenage?

There is a suggestion that Mrs  Ann Pitt wife of Joseph senior  started life as Ann Dinenage

Other Children of Joseph and Ann Pitt-Mary Ann Pitt 1.2.1801,Sophia Pitt  22.2.1803  and Mary Ann Pitt  19.8.1805 .


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Re: Samuel Dinenage, Canterbury
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 May 22 19:01 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Re ciderdrinkers post, I too have a similar situation with a branch of my family.
My couple do not appear to have married, and their children were baptised using their mother's surname Mason. On subsequent census they variously appear as Mason or Smith or Smith-Mason. Some appear with Mason being used as middle name. Middle names were often not recorded at all or as an initial.
Another branch has a number of children baptised with their single mother's surname, but they adopted their step-fathers surname. I linked my great-grandfather's baptism to him in later life, only because he is referred to with his mother's maiden name being used as a middle name in his daughter's will.
Stefan
Oh! What a tangled web we perceive,
where ancestors try to hide and deceive.