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Offline Jason Jase

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Re: Stuck on a very hard brickwork and need help...
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 03 August 22 03:14 BST (UK) »
Well this is really cool. Elizabeth Whiteman has been a brick wall on my tree ever since I have been looking into this a year and a bit ago. thank you very much

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Re: Stuck on a very hard brickwork and need help...
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 03 August 22 06:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Jason
Hope the file comes across
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Re: Stuck on a very hard brickwork and need help...
« Reply #47 on: Friday 05 August 22 04:40 BST (UK) »
Very nice thank you thank you... I am glad to make progress on this my Dad's first cousin that I tracked down in Scotland gave up due to lack of progress on the Whiteman line. I am glad I you responded to this.

Stuck on Thomas Whiteman (born 1811 Heanor, Derbyshire, England)

I also wanted to Find What my Thomas Whiteman's relation is to the other Thomas Whiteman that lived very near him.

Also does anyone know why a birth registry GRO would have a different spelling of a last name
for example
 my Grandfather George Leslie Whiteman official birth cert that I have has his kast name Whiteman on it where as on the GRO website catalogue it is spelled WEIGHTMAN

Name WEIGHTMAN, GEORGE  LESLIE  Mother's Maiden Surname: HARTLEY    GRO Reference: 1910  D Quarter in BELPER  Volume 07B  Page 644

His Aunt Eliza has her name at the GRO as being spelled WEIGHTMAN but all other documents it is Whiteman???


 

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Re: Stuck on a very hard brickwork and need help...
« Reply #48 on: Friday 05 August 22 05:12 BST (UK) »
Also does anyone know why a birth registry GRO would have a different spelling of a last name

The informant may have been illiterate, and the registry cleric wrote the name as he heard, and thought it might be spelled.
The standardisation of spelling is a quite recent occurrence.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)


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Re: Stuck on a very hard brickwork and need help...
« Reply #49 on: Friday 05 August 22 09:19 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Whiteman 1839

Was she not born 1838?

Birth reg
WHITEMAN, BETSEY       
Mother's Maiden Surname: INGAR 
GRO Reference: 1838  S Quarter in BASFORD UNION COUNTIES OF NOTTINGHAM DERBY  Volume 15  Page 427

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Re: Stuck on a very hard brickwork and need help...
« Reply #50 on: Friday 05 August 22 15:47 BST (UK) »
Yes, my mistake, 1838

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Re: Stuck on a very hard brickwork and need help...
« Reply #51 on: Friday 05 August 22 22:21 BST (UK) »
I'm not related to

Birth reg
WHITEMAN, BETSEY       
Mother's Maiden Surname: INGAR
GRO Reference: 1838  S Quarter in BASFORD UNION COUNTIES OF NOTTINGHAM DERBY  Volume 15  Page 427

although Inger is the mother's Maiden name she is not a Child of the Thomas and Marry Ann Inger I am directly related to

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Re: Stuck on a very hard brickwork and need help...
« Reply #52 on: Friday 16 September 22 17:22 BST (UK) »
Ok, so I found Mary Ann Inger born 1812 Heanor, Derbyshire, England died 15 Mar 1887 Middlesex, England as Thomas Whiteman`s wife.
I am confident that her parents were Elizabeth Allen 1793 to Abt. 1838 Heanor, Derbyshire, England and James Inger born 1784 Heanor, Derbyshire, England died Abt. 1839 Negro Row, Heanor, Derbyshire, England

I have made zero movement on Thomas Whiteman born 1811 in Heanor, Derbyshire, England
Whiteman is my last name so being stuck on this only a few generations back is rather frustrating.

I am trying to find out who his parents where....

I know two Thomas Whiteman`s lived in the area both married Ann`s (Mary Ann Inger went by Ann) both died in 1863...

I had a funny thought that both were of these people where the same Thomas Whiteman`s (like he had two families) but that is not true

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Re: Stuck on a very hard brickwork and need help...
« Reply #53 on: Friday 16 September 22 20:08 BST (UK) »
Has this baptism been mentioned?
From the BT
24 Nov 1811, Heanor
Thomas, Son of John & Fanny Wheatman

Right down the bottom
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L96H-38XH

You don’t say why you have discarded this baptism.
Side tracked to a friend’s very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)