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Re: Is This Vulenza BOOTH
« Reply #27 on: Monday 27 June 22 11:14 BST (UK) »
Hi kinky d

Slight progress   ;D  ...  at least this sorts out where Vulenza and William BOOTH were at the beginning of 1905.

Went back over notes for John Francis BOOTH (their son), when you mentioned his illegitimate son, Claude (b. 1901).   Aside from the newspaper article re: custody of this son, placed at one time with JFB's sister Mrs ERICKSON* (correct sp. is ERIKSON*), there was also later mention of his divorce from wife Bridget who'd deserted him and their children. 
[My note :  Did wonder if Vulenza had a part in raising these kids ??   But maybe not.    JFB seems to have married again about a year after divorce.]

Anyway .. there's a marriage printout on an ancestry tree for John Francis BOOTH to Bridget TUOHY -- 28 January 1905 - at the Registry Office, Auckland.   
The witnesses were   >  W.  BOOTH - Auckland -  father of the Bridegroom and Vulenza BOOTH - Auckland.

There could be any reason that William and Vulenza BOOTH were on the e/rolls 1905-06 and 1908 at Masterton ???
Vulenza not to be found on NZ rolls after 1908 and ... William BOOTH does appear (also) on the Auckland > Manukau e/roll in 1908 -- BOOTH - William - Pakatoa Island, labourer :

[ *  "Mrs ERICKSON" = Alice nee BOOTH married Edward ERIKSON - Nov 1900 - Reg. Office, Wellington.  Witnesses - x 2 seemed they might be clerks of Reg. Office staff ??  ]

I am doubtful that Vulenza BOOTH would have gone off to Sydney to be with grandson Claude O'HAGAN.  He was born late in 1901 so was only 16 in mid 1917.   [Seems his mother may have had a marriage while Claude was quite young ?  Have found a woman I think might be his mother,  travelling a bit to and from Australia and other parts, but nothing to confirm. ]

     ~  Lu

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Re: Is This Vulenza BOOTH
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 28 June 22 00:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Lucy  thank you. I didnt find  bit  with  Alice Erikson nee booth in paper but did find  claudes mum suing for support in 1904. The Dick family  there as my nana Vulenza Elizabeth Dick born    Masteron,she Vulenza granddaughter that could be a reason.  Yes  some of Vulenza kids in Auckland I do know some grndkids born n Auckland.  Vulenza skipped out on first marriage  which was 1871 in Devon she came NZ 1873 and married William Booth  so could have done it again?.

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Re: Is This Vulenza BOOTH
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 28 June 22 03:24 BST (UK) »
I didnt find  bit  with  Alice Erikson nee booth in paper but did find  claudes mum suing for support in 1904.
Hi ... no, she was only named in article as "Mrs ERICKSON";   Spelling was wrong so when correcting it to ERIKSON, I also gave her first name, Alice and brief details of who she had married.

The Dick family  there as my nana Vulenza Elizabeth Dick born    Masteron,she Vulenza granddaughter that could be a reason. 

*     Can you expand on this please because I don't understand what you mean ??   "being a reason " ??


Hi kinky d

Could you answer the questiuon in blue above please  ?

Yes, was aware of Vulenza's first marriage in England.
But thinking of the possibility that she was the lady on the boat going to Sydney in 1917 seems really strange given the circumtances of the times (war) - plus her age - and if she was running off with another man say, or even just abandoning her family in NZ, would she have used the name "BOOTH"  ??   Too many questions  ???  ::)

Really about the only thing that can be done now (having not found her in NZ or AUS), is to branch outwards and look to see what members of her immediate family were doing  - where they were living  etc.     ???    It's a long-haul doing that but often people can be found through their children.

Finding out where she was in January 1905 at son's wedding ... and knowing what husband William was up to in 1907 and 1908, is helpful up to a point.

*    Please explain what the story is with William BOOTH going to hospital in 1924 ??

*   What was he doing between 1908 when he was sent to Pakatoa Island by the court, ... and 1924 when he's admitted to hospital ??

*    And is he released from hospital ... or does he stay there until daughter Eliza buries him in 1934 ??

*    Do you or any fellow researchers, actually have the printout or certificate for death of William BOOTH (1934) ??

    ~   Lu

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Re: Is This Vulenza BOOTH
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 29 June 22 02:49 BST (UK) »
Ok   when I found the  info on  Claude it was  from  his mum asking for  support , I  never found the   bit you did on  Aunty Alice Erikson having Claude and  maybe   vulenza  and william   in Masterton  for birth of  some of  grandchlidren  is what I meant. John Francis  moves to Auckland and then Eliza Mary Dick. I am   going back   to  electoral rolls  to  try and  trace  William to  1924 as I  not  sure where he was after  the  stay at island

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Re: Is This Vulenza BOOTH
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 30 June 22 01:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Lucy , I have william in 1925 in the   hospital  and next  time I  know it him is  living with  William Walker DICK and Eliza Mary Dick nee Booth in  1931 151 Balmoral rd Auckland  as a gardener this from electoral  rolls. Not finding how long William was in the hospital or when he went to  daughter Eliza's.

cheers kinky
Got this from a cuz
William Booth 22 Oct 1934, St Joseph's Home,
Ponsonby Auckland. W Little, Undertaker. Born Ireland. Came to NZ over 70 years ago. Aged 82. occupation
Gardener. Cause of Death, renal sclerosis. Seen by Dr C.Murphy 20 Oct 1934. Buried Waikumete 23 October
1934 by J Mansfield, Roman Catholic, officiating minister. Married Christchurch aged 21 yrs to Valenza Welch,
no widow. Surviving children, M 53,48.40 F 55,50
His funeral was arranged by Mrs W. Dick, 151 Balmoral Road on 23 Oct 1934. Cost 21. To be held Tuesday 2pm. Coffin Cheap, Hearse only, Wife entered on Cemetery records as Linda Burns.
OSBORN/E  UK and NZ  HOLMES, PLANT, ABERCROMBIE, COX  NZ