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Re: John Ennis 1836 Hereford
« Reply #18 on: Friday 10 June 22 17:30 BST (UK) »
ok, now I'm getting confused.

Other Richard Ennis entries from 1841
in Martley Worcestershire, yes to born in county, no John in household
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ5G-PXR
1851 Abberley Worcestershire b. Orleton
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGCX-FV7
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGCX-FVZ
son John age 8 on second page born Abberley - he was baptised 22 May 1842, son of Richard & Anne
This Richard is in Markfield, Leicestershire for the 1871 census b. Orleton Worcestershire RG10/3242 folio 7 pg 8
death reg Richard Ennis 83 march qtr 1888 Ashby de la Zouch vol 7a pg 78
Haven't found this Richard in 1861 as yet or his son John after 1851.

in Broadway Worcestershire, yes to born in county, no John in household
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ5P-DJD
This Richard died in 1844, burial 17 Nov 1844 age 66 in Broadway parish church
death reg Richard Ennis 66 dec qtr Evesham vol 18 pg 299

in Aston Ingham, yes to born in county, John age 4 in household
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77Z-VM2

This family still in Aston Ingham in 1851, father Richard has birthplace of Linton, Herefordshire.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/Linton

Both Aston Ingham and Linton came under the Newent registration district
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/newent.html
So it's the Richard born Linton whose death is registered in 1875.

Do any of the trees actually have the death cert which should give occupation?




Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: John Ennis 1836 Hereford
« Reply #19 on: Friday 10 June 22 22:40 BST (UK) »
I am just as confused as you Osprey but have now come down decidedly on following John Ennis on the 1841 census at Aston Ingham. This is the only stands up to scrutiny. The other options put forward in the other online trees just appear to have taken the easy option. The only lingering doubt for me is that on John Ennis marriage he gives his fathers work as a gardener and not a Hurdle Maker. I think at this stage that is the John is the most realistic.

Ray
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Re: John Ennis 1836 Hereford
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 11 June 22 15:28 BST (UK) »
1871 census has the Richard Innes 83 b. Linton gardener. It could be that hurdle making isn't a year round occupation and he worked as a gardener at other times.

This says in winter & spring
https://victorianweb.org/history/work/13.html

I'd agree with you on trees taking the easy option!

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: John Ennis 1836 Hereford
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 11 June 22 23:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks Osprey, wirth that information I am now more than satisfied that I have the correct links for John Ennis to Richard. Could you provide the link to the 1871 census for Richard because I don't have that one.

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Ray
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Re: John Ennis 1836 Hereford
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 12 June 22 00:30 BST (UK) »
1871 census address: 85 Blindmans Gate

Civil parish:   Linton
County/Island:   Herefordshire
Registration district:   Newent
ED, institution, or vessel:   13
Household schedule number:   85
Piece:   2606; Folio:   42; Page number:   16

Thomas Watkins      74   Head
Suan Watkins  70   Wife
Peter Watkins 35   Son
Richard Innes  83   Lodger, gardener, born Linton  Herefordshire
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John Ennis 1836 Hereford
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 12 June 22 11:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks Neale. Sorry Osprey missed your info on the 1871 census on your reply.

Have also confirmed a death for wife Mary in 1869 at Newent (June Qtr 6a 154), and was also able to confirm the earlier info Osprey provided on Richard's death in 1875.

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Ray
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Re: John Ennis 1836 Hereford
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 14 June 22 23:20 BST (UK) »
Hereford Times 2nd June 1860
INSOLVENT DEBTOR to be heard before the Judge of the County Court of Gloucestershire, holden at the Shire-hall, Gloucester, on Thursday, the 21st day of June, 1860, at Ten o'clock in the Morning precisely.
RICHARD INNES, otherwise ANNIS, formerly of Linton, near Ross, the county of Hereford ; afterwards of Clifford's Mesne ; afterwards of Kilcott-hill; and late of Brookes' ; the three last mentioned residences being in the parish of Newent, in the county of Gloucester ; and during the whole period being a Hurdle Maker and Woodman (sued with John Innes, otherwise Hannis).
GEORGE PETERS WILKES, Blackfriars, Gloucester,  Attorney for the said Insolvent. 

Hereford Times 7th September 1861
INSOLVENT DEBTOR to be heard before the Judge of the County Court of Herefordshire, holden at the Shirehall, Hereford, on Friday, the 20th day of September, 1861, at Ten o'clock in the Forenoon precisely.
JOHN INNES, otherwise HANNIS. formerly of Newent then in lodgings at Huntley; then in lodgings at Newnham; then in lodgings at Mitcheldean, all in the county of Gloucester ; and late in lodgings at Staplow. Herefordshire, Journeyman Stonemason and Bricklayer, and renting a piece of land at Newent aforesaid, his wife being a Laundress, and residing with his family at Newent aforesaid.
CHARLES SMALLRTDGE. Gloucester, Insolvent's Attorney.

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Re: John Ennis 1836 Hereford
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 15 June 22 13:50 BST (UK) »
Thank you Dave, this snippets in newspapers give such a wealth of information.

Thanks

Ray
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