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Sherlock Holmes where are you?
« on: Saturday 11 June 22 16:20 BST (UK) »
After purchasing the birth certificate of  my 3x ggrandmother I was quite shocked to find that I'd been barking up the wrong tree for her parents. getting over the huge disappointment and starting again has been a struggle but I'm sure it must happen.
Ann Maria Reeves b24 mar 1853, Dudley Staffordshire. mmn Goodman F Joseph Reeves. I found a baptism record 3 Apr 1853 for Staffordshire and parents are Elizabeth & Joseph Reeves (brickmaker)
I have trawled all the records on FindMyPast, FreeREG and have come up with nothing, searched all the counties in England. I can't even find a census with those names. Elizabeth was born in Tamworth 1824 and her father was William Goodman, mother Mary but I 'm struggling to reconcile any of these names.
Ward, Bentley, Reeves, Sharpe. Everett, Rowe.
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Re: Sherlock Holmes where are you?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 June 22 16:26 BST (UK) »
Have you the marriage certificate for Ann Maria?

If so who did she name as her father and what name does she go under on census - Ann or Maria or both?
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Re: Sherlock Holmes where are you?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 June 22 16:40 BST (UK) »
How do you know you have the right birth cert?  The 1861 has 4 entries for Ann Reeves in the same birth timescale but none for an Ann Maria

Who did she marry & when?

What birthplace is shown for her on census entries after she married?

As mentioned above - what is her fathers name on her marriage cert?
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Re: Sherlock Holmes where are you?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 June 22 17:04 BST (UK) »
I haven't got a marriage certificate, and she's only on the 1881 census as Maria, she died in 1885.
I'll have to back track and start again
Thanks for the pointers...I think I'd doubt my own name today.
Ward, Bentley, Reeves, Sharpe. Everett, Rowe.
 Cox, Bulgin,


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Re: Sherlock Holmes where are you?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 June 22 17:16 BST (UK) »
Presumably this is the one that married William Ward in 1873?

Per the 1881 census her birthplace was Deep Fields, "Alfordshire" - presumably Staffordshire.

She's in the 1861 census at 2 Mill Lane, Leicester. Age 7. Birthplace Deep Fields, Staffordshire. With widowed mother Elizabeth 34, born Leicester, and siblings Elizabeth 13 and Mary 2, both born Leicester.  Also 2 Greaves boarders.

Piece 2294 page 20 folio 98
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Re: Sherlock Holmes where are you?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 June 22 17:23 BST (UK) »
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Re: Sherlock Holmes where are you?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 June 22 17:33 BST (UK) »
and here on FamilySearch transcribed as Raines as on FindmyPast   ::)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7YS-FCM

Elizabeth born Leicester so probably not the one baptised in Tamworth.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Sherlock Holmes where are you?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 June 22 17:56 BST (UK) »
baptism for older sister Leicester St George
24 Nov 1847 Elizabeth daughter of Joseph, brickmaker, and Elizabeth of Wheat Street

Elizabeth married 22 April 1877 to George Steele Bashforth, address for both 129 Great Holme Street. One of the witnesses was Mary Reeves.

1871 census 412 Thorpe St RG10/3286 folio 30 pg 22
Elizabeth Waring head widow 62 sock seamer b. Hinckley
Elizabeth Reeves dau widow 44 sock seamer b. Leicester
Cennellaria (?) grand dau 18 factory hand b. Staffs, Deepfield
Mary grand dau 14 b. Northampton
George Henry grandson 5 b. Leicester
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Sherlock Holmes where are you?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 June 22 18:00 BST (UK) »
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Cennellaria

That must be Ann Maria !
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