Where is this family in 1891?

[sophiamarina]

Hello, thank you again to those who helped me find out about my great-grandfather, John Morris b 1878. I was able to find him on the 1881 census, together with his parents and siblings. The census reference is RG11/5512, page 4. I can't see a folio number printed, but I can tell you it's the parish of Ruabon if that helps. I will try and post a transcription too.

What I'd like to find is:
-- where were the family, especially John, in 1891? He would have been 13 then, so most likely living at home but I don't know if his parents were still living ;I've tried looking at BMD records but they have such common names.

-- any more info about his parents John and Sarah - it's interesting that the census shows that their eldest was born in Liverpool. I think I have found John senior in the 1851 census (based on his place of birth), but Sarah is a mystery still.

Any help appreciated! It's the kind of thing that would be easy if they didn't have such common names!

[sophiamarina]

First name(s)   Last name   Relationship   Marital status   Sex   Age   Birth year   Occupation   Birth place
John   Morris   Head   Married   Male   37   1844   Sexton   -
Sarah   Morris   Wife   Married   Female   35   1846   -   Mold, Denbighshire, Wales
Elizabeth   Morris   Daughter   Single   Female   6   1875   Scholar   Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert   Morris   Son   Single   Male   4   1877   Scholar   Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales
John   Morris   Son   Single   Male   3   1878   -   Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales
Edwin   Morris   Son   Single   Male   0   1881   -   Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales
Charles   Ellis   Lodger   Single   Male   35   1846   General labourer   Denbighshire, Wales

[PaulineJ]

Since there are so many near-namesakes, Here is direct link to familysearch record, for others to search from

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-HJ8D

Extra "s" in 1891.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4YRX-W2M (edwin)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4YRX-9T2 (John)

[ShaunJ]

Ancestry link: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/987257:6897

[ShaunJ]

John Morris, gardener, marriage to Sarah Powell

St David's Liverpool 22 July 1872

Fathers: Robert Morris shoe maker and Edward Powell tanner

Witnesses Isaac Winson and Catherine Hughes

[sophiamarina]

Ooh, thank you - you guys are quick off the draw!

It's interesting to see that his grandfathers were a tanner and a shoemaker, as John himself worked for a shoe shop chain all his adult life, rising to manager and then "footwear inspector". I'd rather be a gardener like John Sr though!