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John William WINTERBOTTOM
« on: Tuesday 21 June 22 04:31 BST (UK) »
Greetings again to all you amazing people. Thank you from my last topic I have learnt a lot and found a lot more avenues for information.

Next one is John William Winterbottom my xggf BIRTH 1861 • Oldham, Lancashire, DEATH 22 MAR 1927 • Cannon hill, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

In 1900 his wife and daughters immigrated to Brisbane 15 Aug 1900 • Brisbane Queensland, Australia
DOD 21 06 1900 London, DUKE OF NORFOLK DOA Brisbane 15 08 1900 WINTERBOTTOM Mary Ann 31, Ethel 11, Ellen 9, Annie 7, Elsie 4,

Now, I absolutely cannot find where/when JWW immigrated, I assume he came first but ??? THIS IS MY BIGGEST QUANDRY??

All help greatly appreciated and I thank you for your responses and time.

ADDENDUM here is everything i have on JWW
Birth
1861 • Oldham, Lancashire
9 in 1971 CENSUS WINTERBOTTOM, JOHN WILLIAM mother LAWTON GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in OLDHAM Volume 08D Page 539

3 sources
1864
3
Birth of sister Harriet Winterbottom(1864–1947)
1864 • Oldham
1867
6
Birth of sister Mary Ann Winterbottom(1867–)
1867 • Oldham
1868
7
Birth of brother Thomas Winterbottom(1868–)
1868 • oldham
1868
7
Birth of brother Robert Winterbottom(1868–)
1868 • oldham
1870
9
Birth of brother Walter Winterbottom(1870–)
1870 • Oldham, Lancashire, England
1871
10
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Census
1871 • 25 miles st, waterhead, mill county, oldham above town, Oldham, Lancashire, England
CENSUS 1971 John W 9, YOB 1862, cotton weaver, POB Oldham Lancashire, BEN W 31 Loom Jobber, Sarah A 31 Cotton Weaver, Harriet 6 scholar, Mary A 4, Water 10mths ? ALL BORN oldham Lancashire, Rebecca Lawton MIL 67 POB Huddersfield, Yorkshire, widow, John Law

1871
10
Death of father Ben Winterbottom JWW MC/Jobber(1839–1871)
December 1871 • Oldham, Lancashire, United Kingdom
1887
26
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Marriage
24 Dec 1887 • st james church, Oldham, Lancashire, England
MARR 24/12/1887 Oldham, St James Lancashire, John William Winterbottom 25 YOB 1862 BACHELOR weaver, 134 Bower Street, Oldham Father Ben Winterbottom, jobber, Mary Ann Brierley 18, speed tenter, 43 Evelyn Street, Father Cartwright Brierley, minder. BOTH LIT

Mary Ann Brierley
(1869–1952)

2 sources
1888
27
Birth of daughter Ethel Winterbottom(1888–1981)
1888 • Waterloo, Lancashire, England
1891
30
Birth of daughter Ellen Winterbottom SCHINKEL(1891–)
1891 • Lancastershire, England
1891
30
Death of mother Sarah Ann Lawton(1839–1891)
13 Nov 1891 • Lancashire, England
1893
32
Birth of daughter Annie Winterbottom COVILL(1893–)
1893 • Lancastershire, England
1896
35
Birth of daughter Elsie Winterbottom JEFFERIES(1896–)
1896 • Lancastershire, England
1900
39
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Immigration
1900 • london, to, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
1901
40
Birth of daughter Alice Winterbottom(1901–1978)
26 Jul 1901
1904
43
Birth of daughter Hilda Winterbottom RADFORD(1904–)
18 Mar 1904 • queensland
1906
45
Birth of daughter Edith Winterbottom DALE(1906–1970)
Sunday, 10 Jun 1906 • lower terrace paddington, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
1919
58
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Residence
1919 • barrack rd, balmoral, Oxley, Queensland, Australia
4537 Winterbottom John William, Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980, Queensland, 1919, Oxley, Balmoral, Barrack Rd, Balmoral, carpenter, Winterbottom Mary Ann, same add. Home duties.

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1927
66
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JWW MAB grave
Death
22 Mar 1927 • Cannon hill, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
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1927
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john william winterbottom funeral notice
Funeral
23 mar 1927 • Cannon Hill/Toowong Cemetery
FUNERAL NOTICE The friends of Mr and Mrs I M Finlayson, Mr H O Schinkel and Mrs B Covill, Mr and Mrs H Jeffries, Mr and Mrs W Webb and families, and Misses Hilda and Edith Winterbottom are respectfully invited to attend the funeral of their deceased father

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1927
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Funeral
23 mar 1927 • Cannon Hill/Toowong Cemetery
FUNERAL NOTICE The friends of Mrs M A Winterbottom are respectfully invited to attend the funeral of her deceased husband John William Winterbottom to move from his late residence Muir Street, Cannon Hill this Wednesday afternoon at 3 o’clock for the Toowo

1927
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Funeral
23 Mar 1927 • muir, street, cannon, hill, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
BRISBANE COURIER MAIL 1864-1933 TROVE https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/21105827?searchTerm=%22winterbottom%22%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&searchLimits=l-state=Queensland|||l-decade=192|||l-year=1927|||l-category=Family+Notices#

1927
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Winterbottom John William 1861-1927 Grave Stone ff84ea8b-e44a-40f9-b12a-673114467d1e
Burial
23 Mar 1927 • Brisbane Buried Toowong Cemetery
Location 10-8-10 MARY ANN WINTERBOTTOM in same location buried 19-06-1952

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Re: JOHN WILLIAM WINTERBOTTOM
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 07:17 BST (UK) »
Do you know Johns mothers MAIDEN NAME - ?

oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: JOHN WILLIAM WINTERBOTTOM
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 07:23 BST (UK) »
Can I ask where you got Oldham - I can only find one John William Winterbottom born Lancashire in 1861
Baptism: 17 Feb 1861 Methodist New Connexion, Mossley Circuit, Lancashire, England
John William Winterbottom -  of Edwin Winterbottom & Elizabeth (formerly Lunn)
    Born: 12 Dec 1860
    Abode: Springfield Cottages, Roughtown in the Parish of Saddleworth
    Occupation: Spinner
    Mother's Father: Joseph Lunn, Roughtown


I think Saddleworth comes under the Oldham Registration - so that may be it - but he was born in Springfield Cottages ,Roughtown Lancashire and was in fact Dec 1860

OR - is the wrong man ???

ADDED Do you know Johns mothers MAIDEN NAME - was it Lawton ?

WINTERBOTTOM   John William   LAWTON   1861   Oldham Above Town   Oldham   OAT/46/396
is this him ?


John William Winterbottom
Event date: 22-3-1927
Event type: Death registration
Date of birth: 1862
Registration details: 1927/B/699
Mother: - -
Father/parent: Benjamin Winterbottom

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Re: JOHN WILLIAM WINTERBOTTOM
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 08:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jamjar - I have deleted most of my previous post
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


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Re: JOHN WILLIAM WINTERBOTTOM
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 08:28 BST (UK) »
On the 1891 Census the name is given as James W Winterbottom, with Mary Ann, Ethel and Ellen.

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Re: JOHN WILLIAM WINTERBOTTOM
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 08:37 BST (UK) »
On the 1891 Census the name is given as James W Winterbottom, with Mary Ann, Ethel and Ellen.

I too wondered about that.

Is this his birth and folks?

WINTERBOTTOM, JOHN  WILLIAM mmn LAWTON 
GRO Reference: 1861  S Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 539

WINTERBOTTOM, HARRIET mmn LAWTON 
GRO Reference: 1864  J Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 551

WINTERBOTTOM, MARY  ANN mmn LAWTON 
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 545

WINTERBOTTOM, ROBERT mmn LAWTON death Sep 1868   
GRO Reference: 1868  S Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 556

WINTERBOTTOM, THOMAS mmn LAWTON death Sep 1868   
GRO Reference: 1868  S Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 556

WINTERBOTTOM, WALTER mmn LAWTON 
GRO Reference: 1870  J Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 589

Dec 1860 Manchester 8d 668
WINTERBOTTOM Benjamin
LAWTON Sarah Ann       

1861 census: https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:M7K9-FPR

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Re: JOHN WILLIAM WINTERBOTTOM
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 08:44 BST (UK) »
On the 1891 Census the name is given as James W Winterbottom, with Mary Ann, Ethel and Ellen.

I too wondered about that.

Is this his birth and folks?

WINTERBOTTOM, JOHN  WILLIAM mmn LAWTON 
GRO Reference: 1861  S Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 539

Dec 1860 Manchester 8d 668
WINTERBOTTOM Benjamin
LAWTON Sarah Ann       

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On his marriage his father is Ben Winterbottom occupation jobber so looks like the right parents Jamjar

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Re: JOHN WILLIAM WINTERBOTTOM
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 09:13 BST (UK) »
WINTERBOTTOM, ETHEL mmn BRIERLEY 
GRO Reference: 1889  M Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 661

WINTERBOTTOM, ELLEN mmn BRIERLEY 
GRO Reference: 1889  S Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 654

WINTERBOTTOM, ELLEN mmn BRIERLEY 
GRO Reference: 1890  J Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 660

WINTERBOTTOM, ANNIE mmn BRIERLEY 
GRO Reference: 1892  J Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 693

WINTERBOTTOM, ELSIE mmn BRIERLEY 
GRO Reference: 1896  J Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 670

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Re: John William WINTERBOTTOM
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 June 22 00:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much everyone, you've got me wondering re James and Mossley Circuit, Lancashire, England
John William Winterbottom -  of Edwin Winterbottom & Elizabeth (formerly Lunn)
    Born: 12 Dec 1860
    Abode: Springfield Cottages, Roughtown in the Parish of Saddleworth
    Occupation: Spinner
    Mother's Father: Joseph Lunn, Roughtown
I will investigate today.

I stuck to John because it's on his monument but....they swap names don't they.

Thank you again for all your work thoughts and efforts I greatly appreciate. Janice  :) :) :)