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Jane Shirran (Gordon) Mother's maiden name- help!
« on: Tuesday 21 June 22 17:02 BST (UK) »
Wondering if anyone can help...

This is the death cert for Jane Shirran(Gordon), I can't tell what her mother's maiden name is, SP says it is Charteris but I can't find anything to confirm this.


In general struggling with this side of the family so hopefully the maiden name will help.

(A bonus would be if anyone can decipher what the cause of death for her was.)

Thank you!

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Re: Jane Shirran (Gordon) Mother's maiden name- help!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 17:13 BST (UK) »
I thought it was Charteris when I first saw it and then , when enlarged, I was doubtful. However, this style in SP is best read at a distance so I'm going with Charteris.


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Re: Jane Shirran (Gordon) Mother's maiden name- help!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 17:41 BST (UK) »
Cause of death is Phthisis Pulmonaris (TB) and ? Hemoptisis, three years.
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Re: Jane Shirran (Gordon) Mother's maiden name- help!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 18:37 BST (UK) »
Cause of death is Phthisis Pulmonaris (TB) and ? Hemoptisis, three years.

Could it be Occasional Hemoptisis* (hemoptysis)

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* coughing up blood
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Re: Jane Shirran (Gordon) Mother's maiden name- help!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 20:12 BST (UK) »
Needs checking out.

A very comprehensive tree on Ancestry suggests her maiden name as Charters

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Re: Jane Shirran (Gordon) Mother's maiden name- help!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 20:36 BST (UK) »
The clerk  appears to dot the i in other parts of the cert * and there is an i (dot)  in the surname so I do think it is Charteris.  Online Trees are  quite often wrong.

* eg   Phthisis  and William
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Re: Jane Shirran (Gordon) Mother's maiden name- help!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 20:38 BST (UK) »
There are two possible death entries that might connect to Jane (siblings?):

James GORDON
Age 50
Mother's maiden name CHARTERIS
1860
197/ 43
Fyvie

Mary GORDON
Age 75
Mother's maiden name CHARTERIS
1882
869/ 31
Kelton

With Mary's death, as you know, can't tell whether Gordon is her maiden name or married name. Two other surnames show for her, Charteris and Lidderdale. Less likely I think that she may be a sibling to Jane but James above does look promising.

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Re: Jane Shirran (Gordon) Mother's maiden name- help!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 20:48 BST (UK) »
I've also  found quite a few baptisms for a Jane/Jean/Janet Charteris  (mainly) in Dumfries and Kirkciubrightshire,
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Re: Jane Shirran (Gordon) Mother's maiden name- help!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 20:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget

I was just adding a little more to my post above. With this Mary also showing a surname of Charteris, I think she is likely not connected to the Fyvie family group. As always though, needs more checks.

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