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Offline Zakerias

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Death record missing on the GRO Indexes?
« on: Wednesday 22 June 22 19:23 BST (UK) »
Searching for a death in 2009 which is in the England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2019:

Name: Mr Ernest Heaton
Gender: Male
Last Residence: Sutton, Surrey, England
Postal Code District: Sm2
Death Date: 20 May 2009
Household members:

But is not on the GRO Online Indexes? Why is this? I had been hoping to order the death certificate.


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Re: Death record missing on the GRO Indexes?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 June 22 19:53 BST (UK) »
Use GRO online to get the reference/order

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

This is the only entry for 2009 - he was b 1916

June qtr 2009 Lincolnshire 6091G Reg 1G001

Hes not the one you are looking for. 

EDIT - he left a will & death date was definitely 20.5.2009.  Wonder if he died abroad & was brought back to England??


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Re: Death record missing on the GRO Indexes?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 June 22 10:32 BST (UK) »
Searching for a death in 2009 which is in the England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2019:

Name: Mr Ernest Heaton
Gender: Male
Last Residence: Sutton, Surrey, England
Postal Code District: Sm2
Death Date: 20 May 2009
Household members:

But is not on the GRO Online Indexes? Why is this? I had been hoping to order the death certificate.


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Re: Death record missing on the GRO Indexes?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 June 22 11:52 BST (UK) »
Re main topic - Ernest Heaton who died Surrey 2009

If he died abroad - would he be on the GRO index or is there a separate index for those deaths?

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Re: Death record missing on the GRO Indexes?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 June 22 11:58 BST (UK) »
This is his birth reg?
March 1916 Belper 7b 1106
Heaton, Ernest   
Mother Steel   

In Mountsorrel in 1921.
Married Edith Moss in 1949 in Manchester (at Newton Heath, St. Wilfrid)

Edith Heaton died Sutton, Nov 2002.
Date of birth 10 Dec 1927.

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Re: Death record missing on the GRO Indexes?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 June 22 12:19 BST (UK) »
Use GRO online to get the reference/order
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

This is the only entry for 2009 - he was b 1916
June qtr 2009 Lincolnshire 6091G Reg 1G001

Hes not the one you are looking for.


EDIT - he left a will & death date was definitely 20.5.2009.  Wonder if he died abroad & was brought back to England??

What am I missing? 
I see "Last Residence: Sutton, Surrey", but it doesn't follow that he died there.  People can die anywhere.
Perhaps he died in Lincolnshire while on a visit or holiday.
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Re: Death record missing on the GRO Indexes?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 June 22 12:24 BST (UK) »
The GRO death index only includes England & Wales.

It does not include Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Irish Republic, Isle of Man, Channel Islands or further afield to be considered abroad.

It might be worth paying 1.50 for the Grant & Will to see if his place of death was recorded there. It might not be.
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Re: Death record missing on the GRO Indexes?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 June 22 12:40 BST (UK) »
This could be the Lincolnshire death

England & Wales Deaths 2007-2020
Mr Ernest Heaton 92
death date 7 June 2009
residence Sleaford

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Re: Death record missing on the GRO Indexes?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 June 22 12:43 BST (UK) »
The GRO death index only includes England & Wales.

It does not include Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Irish Republic, Isle of Man, Channel Islands or further afield to be considered abroad.

It might be worth paying 1.50 for the Grant & Will to see if his place of death was recorded there. It might not be.

Likewise the Probate Calendar ;)
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